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Old Vicarage Vs Kew College - calling out to all the current parents

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yingyang23 · 15/11/2016 10:51

Dear mums,

I need your help me to get my head around one of the big decision for us parents - school?

We live in east twickenham. My daughter has got a place in Kew college (mixed school in Kew) and Old Vicarage (girls school in richmond hill) for reception. My daughter is usually shy at first but once familiar she is very chatty and loves getting involved in things. She needs that nurturing environment, attention and at-least one friend to make her get comfortable in a big setting like schools.

I liked both the schools in their open house. But i know if I look long term Kew College has very good results for destination schools compared to Old Vicarage. Also its a mixed school so a different feel to it (more state like). Old Vicrage is very proper, beautiful uniform and very beautiful building. Girls looked very well behaved as well. I cant assess anything from teaching or on extra curricular at this stage for both the schools. Can i please get some honest feedback from existing parents or anyone who has heard about the school. Will be very grateful. I am one confused mummy trying to make decisions for my darling daughter. Help please!!

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buggybored · 14/03/2018 15:45

yes - I have a daughter who is currently at OVS. She is very happy there - there is streaming in Years 5 and 6 (my daughter is in the 'lower' group but to my mind it works - same work but different pace - and the groups are not set in stone). My experience of the teaching to date is that they are anything but 'cold' - we only joined half way through so can't speak for the early years but we have yet to have a 'dud' and I think the much loved music and IT teachers would be puzzled to hear that there are no chaps teaching there! Nor have we experienced any snobby traits (we are very much not Richmond Hill residents but have had no problems with playdates as one previous poster suggests!).

Temperance15 · 14/03/2018 21:30

Buggybored, how does ‘same work but different pace’ works, do they have more lessons / time in the school and how do they cover the subjects getting to the same depth and content? Also if you are allocated to one stream, is it the same stream (lower or higher) for all subjects, eg maths and English? (Hopefully not) I am not considering OVS as too far from us, but I am on a learning journey about all the schools stuff and thought I would ask as I find OVS streaming quite unique and have not heard of other schools in the borough with similar streaming methods but I may be wrong.

sammi12345 · 16/01/2019 20:46

Hi,

I cannot recommend strongly enough that you do NOT send your daughter to The Old Vicarage. I am not actually a parent- I went there myself, twelve years ago. OVS cares more about its flawless school uniform (complete with "summer boaters swinging through the park") and "castle on a hill" image than the happiness, or even the success, of its girls.

As has already been mentioned, the school suppresses individuality, encouraging all of its students to follow the exact same paths. One of my teachers once laughed at the idea that any one of us might not go to university. That, of course, does not take into account for those girls for whom university might not be the right course to take; who might have other strengths or passions in other areas.

The school is very academic, and usually gets good secondary school placements for its students. Part of this is because of the absurdly high workload, the public humiliation which terrifies the girls into working all hours rather than falling behind and the prioritisation of those subjects needed for 11+ at the expense of anything else. This is also partly because, although OVS is not selective, the girls who go there tend to be the daughters of wealthy parents who can afford the necessary tutoring.

For me, although negative, it was not a hugely destructive environment. However, I am still in touch with many of my ex-classmates, and, unfortunately, for some of them, it was. In my year alone the school turned a blind eye to a lot of emotional and physical bullying. I would even argue that the treatment of some of the teachers towards the students could err on bullying. As far as I know, there is no form of pastoral care.

I know the headteacher, Mrs Linthwaite, personally- she taught me Geography from a young age and was the headteacher for my final years. My younger cousin stayed at the school two years after me, so I kept up with her policies.

One of her new policies apparently involves confiscating snacks off girls (and showcasing this in front of others) if they are deemed to not be healthy enough. The example I was given was chocolate digestive biscuits. Publicly shaming young girls about what they are eating surely only serves to encourage fear of food and body hate from a young age. Considering society's increased awareness about food-related mental-health issues, it honestly shocked me that anyone could think this a good idea.

It is worth mentioning that the school is under a huge amount of pressure from its catchment parents and much of its problems stem from trying to live up to the absurd demands and priorities of Richmond Hill parents. Of course, if you fit into that category, and this is what you are looking for, then you may be perfectly suited for OVS. Your daughter probably won't be, but she's too young to have a say.

Thanks for giving this your time.

sammi12345 · 16/01/2019 20:48

Also, there was one absolutely lovely male teacher when I was there, the music teacher. It is not an entirely female environment, just predominantly so.

LottieProsser · 17/01/2019 10:59

Thats very sad sammi12345 Sounds a bit similar to my experience of Lady Eleanor Holles Junior School much longer ago. I think parents around here are much too anxious about letting their children go to state schools where the majority go on to get good exam results and go to University anyway despite the occasional incompetent teacher and the slightly more chaotic environment.

thebear81 · 25/02/2019 20:56

You have typed the same response over various threads on different platforms. As a mother of a child who will go to school in the very near future and whereby I seek information of “current” and relevant reviews, yours is not helpful to any of the threads. Please provide relevant information and not vent on a platform that is of use for myself and others.

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