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Southfields Library at risk of closure?

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CaptainNjork · 24/09/2014 17:57

Anyone else had a leaflet through their door from a councillor saying Southfields library might close?!

If it did it would be a DISASTER.

Southfields Library at risk of closure?
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LocalEditorWandsworth · 24/09/2014 18:14

We heard this too, so asked the Council via twitter and here is what they said:

"This is wrong - closing temporarily while roof gets fixed here".

So then we asked Councillor Grimston whether he'd got it wrong or not. Here's his reply:

"The Council is working up plans to consider closure of Southfields and other out-of-town-centre libraries (this is entirely separate to the roofing works that will close the library for a few days next month). At the moment the libraries are run by a trust on an agreement but the idea is that when the agreement is up for renewal they might stop funding the libraries like Southfields.

I have been promised (and I believe) that no decision has yet been taken. But equally nobody would waste time drawing up an option of closure if it was not possible it might be implemented. I am sure we can show that closure would be absolutely unacceptable under any circumstances and I felt that it was worth getting the campaign going while nobody has made a decisions they would have to back down from. I hope Mumsnet readers will be reassured that we are not fighting a fete accompli but doing our best to make sure it never comes to a point where we might have to.".

Hmmmmm. So we asked the Council again and were told:

"Cllr Grimston is no longer in Tory group and doesn't represent @wandbc There are absolutely NO plans to close the library".

So a rogue councillor with a vendetta?

Maybe.

But then in January 2013, the Council flat out denied rumours that they planned to close Battersea Park One O'clock Club. Just a month later documents emerged showing they were considering turning it into a café and it closed last summer.

Maybe more to come on this....

CaptainNjork · 24/09/2014 18:26

The mystery deepens...

This has been circulated today:

"Cllr Ravi Govindia, Leader Wandsworth Council
Dear Resident,

As you may be aware Southfields Library is about to undergo some maintenance to repair the roof. The Library will close on Friday 10th October 2014 and reopen on Tuesday 28th October.

I know that some of our residents are being warned of a looming threat to Southfields Library. I wanted to clarify the current position and make sure you know that there is NO threat to Southfields Library or any other library in Wandsworth.

We are rightly proud of our local libraries and we understand their importance to local residents. We have already taken steps to secure the future of our library provision.

We were amongst the first local authorities to put library services out to competitive tender and I was delighted when the charitable Social Enterprise Greenwich Leisure Limited (GLL) was awarded the contract in 2013 to run the service.

GLL have been successfully running Southfields and other Wandsworth libraries for over a year, the new arrangements have produced a saving of £854,440 per year to Council Taxpayers. Given this success why would we want to close libraries that play an important part in our local community?

Our positive approach in Wandsworth is in direct contrast to the many Labour authorities who chose to shut libraries. Rather than take this approach, we thought creatively about how we best provide the services residents want.

I continue to work closely with your Southfields ward Councillors Kim Caddy, Guy Humphries and Terry Walsh. If you would like any more information on the library, please see this Council news release or get in touch with us by email [email protected].

With best wishes

Ravi Govindia
Leader, Wandsworth Council"

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LocalEditorWandsworth · 24/09/2014 18:30

And again...

This now from Cllr Grimston (presumably in response to Cllr Govindia)

"Dear friend,

The expected backlash is now under way with claims from some members of the Council ruling group attacking my honesty and saying there are ‘no plans’ for closure of the library and implying that I’m doing this for my own electoral reasons (though why I would leave the Conservatives after 20 years if all I wanted was the prospect of reelection is unclear to me).

These are the facts.

On June 23 the Conservative Group received a programme of work for the next year. In it was a clear statement that in the November/December/January cycle there would be an item: “consideration of closure of non-town centre libraries”. (Obviously I have the paper in question.) In effect, when the contract with the social enterprise that now provides library services comes up for renewal, not funding the out-of-town centre libraries is one possible option (among others). Those plans are being worked up now, alongside others.

I have since received confirmation from both the Leader and the Cabinet member that this is happening. The Leader has also said that no decision has been taken and I believe this to be the case – I have certainly stressed this in all my communications on the matter.

My point is a simple one. Not that a decision to close has been taken – I have spent all day telling people this is scaremongering by some of the political opportunists around the place. (It would have been very easy for me to overegg this pudding but I have been very careful not to.) But if there is no possibility whatsoever of the libraries closing then why is the option being worked up? I had started to feel happier after what I had been told but then saw the Council was saying there were ‘no plans’ for closure and that set the alarm bells ringing once again. This phrase is the traditional ‘non-denial denial’, perhaps made most famous by Tony Blair when before the 1997 election he had this exchange: "Will Labour introduce tuition fees for higher education?" to which he answered "Labour has no plans to introduce tuition fees for higher education." “No plans” does not mean “no tuition fees”. There are plenty more examples on the web.

The solution is quite easy – if the Leader or the Cabinet are prepared to say: that no such note went to the Conservative Group on June 23; that officers have not even been asked to consider the closure of the out-of-town centre libraries; that there is a cast-iron guarantee that the libraries like Southfields will be open at the time of the next election; and that officers are not to do any work on that option in the meantime; then I will be delighted and quite happy to take the personal flac that is the stock in trade of those responsible for the Nasty Party epithet.

I felt it right that if the Cabinet should proceed with closure they should know how the community felt, rather than wait until the decision had been taken (and of course it might have gone the ‘right’ way) and run the risk of having to attack a fait accompli. I chose the former, knowing there was a risk of causing some concerns that may have been unnecessary. I do not have the benefit of perfect foresight. But to call it a ‘planned closure’, which I have never done (indeed in all my statements I have said it is all at an ‘early stage’), and then attack me for something which I never said smacks of desperation.

I repeat this will all go away with a cast-iron guarantee that there has never been any consideration of closure of out-of-town centre libraries - I do not believe the Conservative Cabinet can offer this because they are well aware that there is documentary evidence showing the opposite to be true - and that they will be open in 2018. ‘No plans’ is no guarantee.

Best wishes,

Malcolm"

julieh1 · 24/09/2014 18:36

Sounds like an inter-tribe political spat. Splitters!

LocalEditorWandsworth · 24/09/2014 22:31

We asked Cllr Grimston to send us a copy of the document he refers to in his e-mail. Here is what he said:

"I believe the Leader of the Council may be about to issue a press release accepting that what I said was true but saying that funds are being found to make sure the libraries do not close (which was all we wanted, obviously – I will be the first to congratulate him if he does). If so my intention is to leave it at that. However if he continues to imply that we made the whole thing up I will email you the Group note for you to make of what you will"

Watch this space...

tiredofwetsheets · 25/09/2014 08:45

Well either way it sounds like the libraries are safe. I suspect they always were. Closure may have been an option on the table but presumably when thinking about cost savings the Council has to consider all the possibilities. Doesn't mean this was ever a realistic one. Cllr Grimston has got lots of publicity for his new independent party out of it though.

LocalEditorWandsworth · 26/09/2014 13:07

We have received an e-mail from another Conservative councillor (whose identity we have agreed to keep anonymous) confirming that there was a plan to close not just Southfields library but other non-town centre libraries including Northcote library.

Here is the e-mail:

"Obviously I don't want to be named because I hope to have a council career, but feel the treatment of Malcolm Grimston has been very harsh. The council are lying to say there were no plans for library closures. Shortly after we were all elected we were herded into a room in the town hall and it was made clear that we would be expected to vote through the vast majority if not all the cuts proposed.

Malcolm Grimston has done everyone a favour. I would have hated voting to close Northcote library, especially as you sometimes get the sense those in charge are not in control, but it was made clear we had no choice. I would have stayed quiet, but Ravi Govindia emailed us all saying it was "pure mischief making to create an issue where none exists" and that is a lie. The intention to close libraries was there.

blowingthewhistle · 26/09/2014 14:40

PRIVATE AND CONFIDENTIAL

CONSERVATIVE GROUP MEETING – 23rd June 2014

Major decisions affecting savings in the autumn and winter cycles of OSC

..........
November / December / January ?
........
Closure of Tooting Bec Track and Battersea Leisure Centre ?
........
Consideration of closure of non-town centre libraries ?
........

N.b. ..... are deleted items which were mostly admin/managerial/staffing issues.

mumbleema · 26/09/2014 14:52

What a confusing mess!

Presumably having now said there are no plans to close the library, the Council will self the option of closing it for cost cutting.

Blowing the Whistle go on... show us what else it said. You know you want to ;-)

CaptainNjork · 26/09/2014 14:55

I bet it doesn't include anything about the possibility of raising Council tax rather than cutting services we all love.

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BilboSW18 · 26/09/2014 15:10

Will be interesting to see how the council respond to the latest allegations. One councillor can just be rogue, two starts to look like a conspiracy.

julieh1 · 26/09/2014 18:51

My reading of all of this is that the council (or to be more specific the conservative majority) were considering and would have liked to close our libraries but have been headed off at the pass.

Cllr Govindia doesn't come out of it well - as the tories top man there was no way he didn't know this was on the table so astonishing that he could flat out deny it.

Let's hope the leaking of the other planned closures has a similar effect.

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