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St Michaels Nursery - E5

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LeeCovo · 14/08/2013 13:42

Hi there
Just wondering if anyone sends or has in the past sent their little ones to St Michaels Nursery on Blurton Road, E5?

Would be great to hear from you if you have. I've recently registered my son to attend and it seems fine; staff are friendly, small groups of children; relaxed atmosphere etc. But would be good to hear of other people's experience as I can't help but feel guilty about leaving him there and wonder if there is a better alternative?

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Yayaya2013 · 08/04/2014 09:01

Hi Leecovo,
Just read your post as i am about to send my son there this month.
How has your experience been? I looked around and it was the most decent one among what was available, especially the head teacher, but like you i feel very insecure about leaving him.

chichiS · 15/06/2017 10:25

Hi, for parents wishing to send the toddlers/children to St. Michael's nursery in lower clapton E5 ensure you get a viewing first before registering your child. I recently called to request a viewing and was told that they do not have a viewing policy in place. That they would put my interest on a list and call me when they have a place available. I explain that I am checking out nurseries in the area to be able to make an informed decision before registering my child at any nursery. St Michael's nursery were very unaccommodating, showed no sensitivity and were damn right evasive. as a compromise i suggested, they let me know when it would be possible in the next few months for a visit only to be called by and be told by on of the joint owners that they would not accommodate my request nor want me to register my child there.
I will not want to register my child in an environment that want to be dictator and nor allow a mom to ask questions in relation to her child.
My advice for any parent wanting to send their child to St. Michael's is to request a viewing as it is your right as a parent to see the environment they propose to send their child.

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sallywallywonka · 29/01/2018 17:20

Are you sure you have the right nursery @tiredalways? Our daughter attends St Michael's in E5 and none of the children wear uniforms. I have not met anyone "vile" at the nursery (staff, parent or child) and I know the "management" would be extremely upset to hear themselves described in this way. Anyone who knows the nursery knows that the managers are one of its best features. Our daughter loves the nursery and when I talk to other parent friends they are always jealous to hear about the great communication, consistent key-worker contact and all the exciting activities my daughter participates in which aren't offered by some other local nurseries. According to the daily diary entries I receive, there is plenty of fresh fruit and veg on offer to the children (although whether my daughter actually eats it is another question entirely). We are very, very happy with our choice of nursery and I would suggest any parent considering sending their child to St Michael's reads the most recent Ofsted report (Feb 2017) which in my view hits the nail on the head when it says "Staff are extra caring and establish extremely positive, warm bonds with children, supporting their emotional well-being superbly."

arcola · 10/06/2019 23:17

Our experience of St Michaels in Clapton / Blurton Rd has been really bad, and we are having to leave. Our experience had much in common with @chichiS from the start but we made the mistake of persevering. Firstly since I had to be away for work when my husband viewed the nursery, I was not allowed to view it (one viewing per family - this applies even after you’ve paid to secure a place). Then when we were offered a place (despite my own reservations my husband wanted to take it) the managers made a monumental mess of communications - failing to send me the bank details required to secure the place, and then giving that place to someone else... even though I'd given notice at our old nursery in Stokey by that time (we were moving house). They eventually denied that they'd offered us a place, or that I'd called half a dozen times, even though I had emails to prove it. Alarm bells....! This is just disorganised and unprofessional. When I politely tried to register by email that the process had been rather stressful ('but its water under the bridge etc, just wanted to let you know for next time etc") their response was to willfully refuse to acknowledge it, get really defensive and try to make me feel guilty for mentioning it. And then to suggest that we go elsewhere. I was pretty shaken by the tone and shocked by the dishonesty. Writing this, I am wondering why we carried on. But my husband still thought they were our best bet - and by that point we'd still got no other options (unsurprisingly other local nurseries have longer waiting lists than St Michaels). Our amazing Stokey nursery juggled to let us stay until the next place came available.

I now know that the above is the managers’ mode of operation and way of keeping parents at arms’ length and avoiding questions. Next up came payment... I asked if there was any written information they could send because my husband didn't receive anything on the viewing - policies, day to day activities, learning objectives, meal plans? Were there any terms and conditions? pick up timings, calendars, closures... you know, helpful stuff. The manager emailed back to tell me that my husband had been verbally told everything on the walk around and that they would not send any information and "don't feel under pressure to take the place". It was too late by then. We had no viable option but to take the place - we both work full time and we were juggling a lot, and there aren't many other options. I have since learned that the way the nursery deals with any kind of query is to deflect and defend, refuse to give information, and suggest that if you don't like it, you can leave. We didn't know if our daughter had a key worker or not, and when we mentioned this, instead of inviting us in to say hi and meet everyone, they tried to convince me that my husband had already met the key worker! The communications with parents are really bad. They breach government standards by failing to provide information to parents when asked, and like many parents there, we are at a loss to understand how they got such a positive Ofsted report. I suspect that their rigid approach serves them well in that kind of regulatory framework. Our previous nursery in Stoke Newington (Minihome) was so open, loving and communicative, with a really strong community, amazing facilities, and amazing staff - and we are heartbroken about having left it for St. Michaels.

There is more bad stuff… but I’ll save that for a separate post as it is a specific issue. Having experienced the joys of a great nursery, my strong recommendation for anyone considering this place, would be to hold out for one of the better nurseries in the area like Clapton Park, Round Chapel, Me Montessori, Stepping Stones and Little Buds.

arcola · 11/06/2019 16:26

I should also add that in nearly 5 months at St. Michael's nursery we have have not received any written feedback on our daughter's progress or development, never been invited to talk to anyone at the nursery, and not been made aware who her key worker is. Nor have we been given any information about how to access any information about what she gets up to in the day. For 3 months of that time, I was sharing pick up and drop off with my husband and even getting verbal information about whether/ how long she'd napped for was difficult sometimes, and occasionally felt like it was an imposition. At our last (amazing) nursery we had a brief, written note from the key worker every day (mood, key activities, nap, toilet, how much eaten), an email once a week talking about all the things they got up to in each room, a scrap book that came home every 3 months, and there was no way you couldn't have known who the key worker was because they wrote to tell you, and invited you in expressly to meet them, and plus they were just so friendly you couldn't possibly not know. Our dissatisfaction with St Michaels nursery may have been clouded by a previous excellent experience, but I still think its woefully poor performance by St Michaels.

R0yR0yR0y · 13/06/2019 19:36

Avoid. Dictatorial managers, controlling, no communication, completely stuck in the past. Massive fee increases with no warning and there are way better nurseries round here for that price. We're leaving. Ignore their ofsted rating and go with your gut.

arcola · 21/06/2019 21:49

Also a small detail, but it was important to me. I never understood why at her previous nursery she got through 1-2 changes of clothes a day through messy play, mud pies, baking, painting etc. At this nursery she came back every day spotless, and never brought home anything that she had made. That might appeal to some people, I realise!! (less washing for sure) but I found it really sad.

AAlvarez · 10/11/2019 14:20

Hello anyone reading this. We wanted to add our glowing endorsement of St Michael’s to this thread, I’m afraid the content people aren’t the ones who post on these things. So to counter some of the above...

Our son as been going to St. Michael’s for a year and a half and we have never, ever regretted one day of it. His development has been outstanding and we have to thank the staff there for helping raise a happy and confident boy. He loves going there three times a week and we run into other St Michael’s families in the neighbourhood and the kids always wave and say hello. They create a supportive, friendly and independent environment for the kids to learn and PLAY. We don’t find it dictictorial, maybe they’re more strict in comparison to others but I don’t particularly think raising kids to be polite, tidy and considerate is too much to ask.

Our boy does come home clean with the occasional mucky top from some activity, but we find this a massive PLUS. They’re being attentive! He also comes home smiling, always with something he’s made or with a story of something he’s done.

We love the women who run it, can’t say enough good things about Lola and Ade, and will always thank them for helping us give our boy the best start in life.

We definitely agree with the Oufsted Outstanding rating.

chichiS · 24/06/2020 14:10

I ended up not sending my child to the nursery. When a number is not open and transparent that's a red flag

arcola · 28/11/2020 00:03

It’s hard to believe the post by AAlverez is legitimate. We had so many concerns about this nursery that after leaving we contacted Hackney Learning Trust. After hearing our concerns they asked us to contact Ofsted, who encouraged us to submit a written complaint and to attach the considerable written correspondence we had received from Ola and her mother from registration onwards, much of which had been profoundly concerning and unusual. Which we did. We very much hope action has been taken.

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