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Mount Carmel Kindergarten

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momtimestwo · 15/06/2012 15:43

We are looking for nurseries in St. Albans. I was wondering if anyone knows anything about Mount Carmel Kindergarten or has a child there. We are just looking for some recommendations. Any input would be highly appreciated!

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Dragontrainer · 18/06/2012 13:57

My youngest is currently at Mount Carmel, and loves it there. It has a really nice family atmosphere and seems to do well at giving children confidence to move on to "big" school seamlessly! However, if you are looking for a nursery to look after your little ones while you are at work, it may not be the best option as it is a pre-school rather than daycare - sessions for the rising twos are for a couple of hours in the afternoon, and for the rising threes it is the morning sessions, rather than for full days. If you are looking for daycare that will have the little darlings for a full day, people speak highly of Little Steps on Lancaster Road and Wainscott House on Harpenden Road. Hope that helps!

sweetieaddict · 21/06/2012 13:55

Hi there,

I'll be watching this thread as I'm interested in sending my ds to mount carmel kindergarten. We've only been in st.albans for 6 months but are very happy...

I had a really nice chat with the principle of mc and she was very helpful and honest and is sending me out a pack. As far as I am aware mk, abbey view and montessori are the three that are classed as outstanding by ofsted, so am looking forward to looking around them all and seeing which one suits my son the best, he is very active and has a very short attention span so will need lots of stimulation.....

PeggyBabcockBoot · 22/06/2012 17:26

My two went there and were so happy and so was I. Lovely family atmosphere and the teachers aren't afraid to give the children lots of cuddles. The only downside, if it is one, is that during the past 5 years the principle has become increasingly more religious (catholic) to the point that prayers are said by the children and age appropriate bible stories are often read. I'm an atheist and didn't bother me too much - but might get on your nerves if you don't want religion preached to your children. Very small price to pay though for a nurturing environment. Mine still go back for visits.

sweetieaddict · 27/06/2012 22:51

Lovely thanks very much, I love the idea of return visits, how sweet.......

ShredMeJillianIWantToBeNatalie · 03/07/2012 15:02

My middle son went to MCK and my youngest starts there in September. I love the place, my middle son was so happy there. Brilliant at encouraging independence and readiness for school. I'm a big fan of Mrs F, she's a strong character but I don't think any child-related issue or problem would ever faze her.

prettytired · 18/12/2013 20:10

Just thought I would update this thread as in the end we chose Mount Carmel Kindergarten for my son - he has just finished his first term there.

Well, where to start - he LOVES it and is so happy there. He asks to go to nursery literally every single day - in fact, I have to tell him it's shut on the days he doesn't go, otherwise he gets really upset!

We looked around all the really good nurseries in St.A and this one was head and shoulders above the rest. If the other nurseries are also rated outstanding, Ofsted should reconsider their rankings as Mount Carmel really is in a completely different league to them.

I would describe Mount Carmel almost like a mini school - the children look utterly adorable in their little uniforms holding their bags and skipping happily into 'class'. It's evident they have very high standards and rules, but are in no way strict or stuffy.

For example, children are expected to tidy up after themselves, wash their hands, say please and thank you, be independent, but staff will equally hug and embrace the children and are absolutely incredible with them. Role plays, creative play, hide and seek in the garden - they really do get down to their level and make everything so much fun, but at the same time are so gentle and nurturing with the children.

I don't think I've ever dropped or picked ds up and not been greeted by the door being flung open by the staff who are (genuinely) absolutely delighted to see him. You can just tell they all really do love their jobs and are so passionate and excited to see the children. I also think whatever 'type' of child you have, they bring out the best in them and encourage and support each individual 'character'.

Some 'outstanding' nurseries we looked around, the staff looked fed up, bored and sadly, there was almost a depressing feel to them. Here, there is so much happiness, laughter and love - we felt this after about a minute of first walking through the door on our initial visit.

My son literally runs into his classroom, without even a backward look at Mummy! When I picked him up during his first week (they settled him beautifully btw, a very smooth process - I expected him to be upset that I was leaving him but he wasn't bothered at all!) I was utterly astounded to see him sitting in a circle singing and following instructions (this was a boy that would always refuse to sit down and would have me chasing after him at toddler groups!)

Sessions are split into different sections - freeplay, time outside regardless of weather (coats on, bundled out), there's a huge back garden with lots of facilities (excellent for boys!), art, drawing, puzzles, storytime, exercise in the gym, special visits from animals, little extras etc, and then singing and music time at the end.

What I particularly love about Mount Carmel is despite the energy and stimulation there, there is also structure, order and a feeling of calmness when you walk through the door. This then means the children are happy, relaxed and confident during their sessions and subsequently achieve and do lots because they are so contented in their lovely surroundings.

Other nurseries we visited, despite having very good reputations, were almost manic, lots of shouting, screaming and children running from room to room. I actually had a headache after one tour (and I have a very noisy, active ds, so am used to noise!)

There's also a higher than average staff to child ratio and class sizes are
deliberately kept small which we were really pleased about.

Anyway, have rambled on, but we honestly couldn't find anyone that had a bad word to say about Mount Carmel when we were researching nurseries. It seemed too good to be true, then we visited it and realised it was true, and understood just why everyone loves it so much.

Also, lots of strong feedback with parents - a little breakdown of how your dc has behaved, what they've done when you pick them up - letters sent home, parent 'afternoons', you really do feel like you are part of their little 'family'. It's the little touches too - ds bringing home seeds in a plant pot he planted, photos of him on a Christmas tree decoration, a visit from the Christmas fairy at the Christmas party, beautiful paintings and drawings that we love looking at.

Oh, and regards to the poster above who said about it becoming increasingly more religious - that's not what we have found at all and I'm certainly not aware of any 'preaching'.

Ds for example though, has just learnt about the nativity, baby jesus, charities, in a very relaxed manner as I naturally would expect him to at Christmas. Surely most parents would want their child to have awareness and appreciation of all different types of religions and theology in their formative years - all very important imo.

ShredMeJillianIWantToBeNatalie · 18/12/2013 22:39

I'm glad you're happy with MC, it really is a,special place. Mine are all now at school, I miss the place. It's on Facebook if anyone is interested.

champagnelover · 07/02/2015 21:37

I found this thread when searching for term dates for MCK and just wanted to add my tuppence! My dd has had an amazing year at MCK. We have just registered her brother for next year, it really is as special as everyone has said.

She is so happy going to nursery and particularly loves the puppet shows at the end of the day, completely convinced they are real of course!

She has a wonderful teacher who she is very close to and talks about constantly. They also now have a male teacher and my friend says her son raves about chase and catch in the garden with him!

I particularly love Fridays when she comes home with what they've made at cooking - so many things that make it such a wonderful nursery- nativity play, show and tell, arts and crafts, singing, weekly themes, stories, winter woodland walks - last term they had a visit from a horse, birds, dogs, chickens and a fire engine!

ALL the staff are just incredible, LOVE the fact it's a family run business. Principal Mrs F is a woman to be in awe of really....love her morals, kindness and fairness. Totally approachable (often gone to drop off stuff half way through the day and seen her cleaning the toilets etc). I don't think anything would ever phase her with any type of child. I remember when I was being somewhat neurotic over pfb, she gently made me see the situation in a completely different light. No favourites, no special treatment - every child is treated the same. Lovely network of mums too.

Honestly, I just can't find enough words to describe how special the 'MCK bubble' is. I say 'bubble' as I don't think their early years could be so magical and perfect, with no worries or problems. I will VERY teary eyed when my children leave here and start school.

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