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Split time between Paris/UK possible?

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EuroTsar · 28/04/2024 09:00

Hi all! My partner has been offered a job in Paris. I'm employed in the UK and Mt employer is happy for me to just come into the office once a month.
We are both UK + EU dual nationals.
I'm happy for my partner and want to spend most of my time living with him in Paris but I definitely want to keep my UK job and was hoping to buy a house here next year :(
Can I work in UK while living in Paris if I go back to UK a certain number of days?

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Utahthecat · 28/04/2024 10:09

If you’re doing the work while sitting in Paris, you need to be set up as a French business - legally you can’t be a digital nomad in France. Your employer would need to be set up to pay your French social charges (which are considerably higher than in the UK). Or you can set up with a portage company which will allow you invoice your company as a salaried worker but again, you will pay considerably more social charges than in Uk.

Soigneur · 28/04/2024 10:23

You need to speak to a French employment lawyer. While cross-border working between two EU countries is straightforward, your situation where you are employed in a non-EU country is not. If you spend more than 182 days a year in France you will be considered resident and you will need to pay tax and social charges on your global income (so on your U.K. salary). Additionally your overseas (U.K. employer) will need to pay French social services contributions (although if they have no presence in the EU that’s unenforceable).

Or you could just chance it as many people do, it’s highly unlikely you will be found out by either French or British tax authorities, particularly if you maintain a principal address in the U.K.

CrazyHorse · 28/04/2024 15:03

MN will tell you that you need to pay taxes in France. In reality, since lockdown, many people chance it. One of DHs colleagues moved to his home country while his wife retrained, with a view to coming back when she's qualified. Obviously work know and are quite happy about it. I very much doubt he's paying tax in his home country as well as the UK.

LynetteScavo · 28/04/2024 15:03

(He flys back for the office Christmas party though Grin)

EuroTsar · 28/04/2024 15:07

Soigneur · 28/04/2024 10:23

You need to speak to a French employment lawyer. While cross-border working between two EU countries is straightforward, your situation where you are employed in a non-EU country is not. If you spend more than 182 days a year in France you will be considered resident and you will need to pay tax and social charges on your global income (so on your U.K. salary). Additionally your overseas (U.K. employer) will need to pay French social services contributions (although if they have no presence in the EU that’s unenforceable).

Or you could just chance it as many people do, it’s highly unlikely you will be found out by either French or British tax authorities, particularly if you maintain a principal address in the U.K.

Thank you! What if I spend 182 days a year in France and the rest in the UK?

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Soigneur · 29/04/2024 13:31

EuroTsar · 28/04/2024 15:07

Thank you! What if I spend 182 days a year in France and the rest in the UK?

You might be ok if you can prove tax residency elsewhere (i.e. the UK). But you REALLY need to speak to a lawyer.

I think you're issue is, if you don't own or rent a place in the UK, you are going to have a hard time convincing the French authorities that it really is your primary residence.

samarrange · 17/06/2024 00:45

You only pay (income) tax in one country, the one where you spend more than half your time. And you might find that you pay less in France than in the UK.

Also there are some fun and games possible in the first year because the UK's tax year starts in April. If you move in August you might save quite a bit of money, because you will get your full UK personal allowance for the current year and France won't expect you to pay anything until the next year.

DPotter · 17/06/2024 01:36

What if I spend 182 days a year in France and the rest in the UK?

I don't think you can - thought you could only stay in France for 90 days in any 180 day period ?

Partimer82 · 17/06/2024 06:32

DPotter · 17/06/2024 01:36

What if I spend 182 days a year in France and the rest in the UK?

I don't think you can - thought you could only stay in France for 90 days in any 180 day period ?

She said has an EU passports

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