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36 replies

Sportbilly · 18/06/2022 18:32

Hi,

I'm potentially going to be offered a relocation abroad (living in the Midlands in the UK) to work in Troy, Michigan.

The job seems to tick all the boxes, however, we like to live in a bigger city and the only one seemingly near, Detroit, would worry me due to the obvious safety concerns.

Detroit historically had a bad reputation, anybody know if it's improved and would be a safe city for a family to live (I know any city can be dangerous I'm the wrong places of course)?

Are there any other decent sized cities, with plenty for families to do, in commutable distance to Troy please?

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ZeldaWillTellYourFortune · 20/08/2023 01:01

My sister lived in Michigan for many years until the pandemic.

The only place suitable for a non-driver is Ann Arbor which would be a 40-60 min commute to Troy in good weather.

And there is no public transportation from Ann Arbor to Detroit or suburbs.

Michigan has a great deal to offer but not to non-drivers.

ZeldaWillTellYourFortune · 20/08/2023 01:02

mathanxiety · 20/08/2023 00:01

OP maybe you could explain to your employers that your wife can't drive, so would need an larger salary for taxis.

I can see the eyerolls even from the other side of Lake Michigan.

And taxis don't really exist in those suburbs the way they do here. Nor Uber.

mathanxiety · 20/08/2023 01:05

Uber and Lyft are fairly common in suburban areas. They can be expensive though, and you can end up waiting a while.

You get very used to American driving, especially if you haven't driven in the UK. It becomes your normal.

knitnerd90 · 20/08/2023 01:33

Detroit is really not a good place for a non driver. Remember, the whole metro area is the centre of the US auto industry. Even in the city proper transit is lousy. And the schools in the city aren't good.

driving is fairly easy in Michigan aside from the winter weather. It's flat and the roads are an easy to navigate grid.

KickAssAngel · 20/08/2023 03:24

I'm another local. Moved here from the UK 15 years ago. Pm me if you want info.

Wishitsnows · 20/08/2023 03:57

You really need to consider your 14 year old and look for good school districts and not in Detroit city.

greenspaces4peace · 20/08/2023 05:39

i lived in midland michigan 1.5hrs away from troy and it was simply divine.
excellent health and dental care, leafy green and at the time very safe.
shopping in saginaw.

Sportbilly · 20/08/2023 21:38

Not sure why people think you should only move cities for more money. We've had quite a lot of bad things happen where we live now, not all necessarily due to the location, so we want a clean slate and a fresh start.

We don't have close family where we are now and have been unhappy in our current location, so in our case it's not like we're risking extreme happiness to go to a place we might not like. Worse case is we won't like it, and we'll be no worse off than we are today, but at least we'll have tried it!

The contract would be a local one but effectively has a get out of free jail card that we can come back to the UK within the first three years (obviously not the plan) if it goes belly up for any of a multitude of reasons.

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SpinachSpinachMoreSpinach · 20/08/2023 21:47

Where to start...

What visa? Tell me it's not H1b...
Contract?
Path to Green Card?
WHY do you think this is a good idea?
Life being cr@p in the UK is NOT, definitely NOT, a good enough reason
Do not move teenagers to a totally different country/culture unless there is a bloody good reason.

Ask me how i know..

constellations · 21/08/2023 02:03

Hi there. I commented before, and all of that still stands. It's such an exciting opportunity--congratulations. I disagree with many above about uprooting teens. Teens are resilient and giving them an international experience can be wonderful, especially if there's nothing to lose back home. I have a 14-year-old and I would love to relocate to the UK from Michigan just to give mine that experience. Alas, finding such an opportunity is the barrier. If you already have one, I say go for it!

Troy is a wonderful place to live for families. I would honestly stop my search right there. You're not going to find a Manchester or Birmingham in Michigan if that's what you're looking for. Although Detroit is a great city, it doesn't have appropriate facilities for children and teens. It's not safely walkable from one neighborhood to the next and I would be suspicious of the bus system (they don't yet have a rail system). It is a fun city to go to sporting events, musicals, symphonies, etc. There IS actually a Birmingham, Michigan, which is walkable and very safe, but it is very posh/expensive and probably what you'd consider a "small city" (although I suspect most of our cities would fall under that category). Royal Oak is another option for you to consider. It has a downtown area that is thriving, schools that are middle to adequate, and affordable housing. Tell me, what do you mean by "small city"?

If you live in Troy, depending on where you live, your wife will be able to walk to certain things. We lived near the Troy Historical Museum in Troy and I could walk to the grocery store, the library, the school, the community center (gym, pool, etc.) If your wife bikes, she could easily bike from that area to a large indoor mall (Somerset) or many other shops surrounding. There are many great dining options around. Troy School District is one of the best in the state, and this is something you should be VERY concerned about. The US has quite a bit of disparity between school districts. I can't stress enough to be very careful in this choice. It is unequal, and sad, but it is reality. If you want to carefully consider what district you will end up in, visit https://www.greatschools.org/. Type in a city or a district or a school name and you will find a "rating" of that school. You can also visit https://www.niche.com/k12/search/best-public-high-schools/s/michigan/ for a list of all high schools in Michigan ranked. As you can see, Troy High School is ranked #2. This means something. If you want your 14 year old to go to a particular school, you'll need to be careful to choose a house within that school's boundaries. Here is where you'll find Troy School District's boundaries: https://www.troy.k12.mi.us/departments/enrollment/district-maps

In Troy, you will certainly get the full American suburban experience. You might look at it as cultural immersion. If you are looking for one of those wonderful cities you have over there with a city centre, great public trans, green space and a lovely feel, you will not find that in Michigan. Ann Arbor is the closest you might come, and that is VERY far to drive during busy hours to Troy. I wouldn't recommend that commute.

If you would like assistance with all this, I am happy to help. I have three kids spread across high school, middle school and elementary school, so I am well-versed in this system.

Best of luck to you all!

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maybebalancing · 21/08/2023 14:10

I think not driving will be a big issue. It is really only the central areas of big cities like NYC and Chicago that you wouldn't have a car.
The good news is that your 14 year old can soon be driving.
Unless your wife has a medical issue she should start driving as soon as she gets there, the test is very easy to pass, the roads easier to navigate and auto the norm.

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