To those of you living in 3rd world countries who really see how things are.

[carmenm]

Could you please do something on the chat thread to tell people what its like to live ina 3rd world country and not have hot water, or a washing machine, etc. Could you please help me to explain to people that its very difficult for the people living in these countries. Some people don't make more than 30 dollars a month, or they have nothing to eat but rice, or have sick children and can't pay for a doctor, etc.

My "daughter" (her parents didn't care about her and are now out of her life) has congenital rubella syndrome and started a charity in vietnam. We lived in South America for a long time too.

Soem people just have no idea. They seem to think everywhere is like England or Europe.......

"Yurt1, its nicer to believe in things, even if they aren't true sometimes. "

I don't know what you mean here carmenm. I haven't bothered to check if this story is true or not. I haven't read other threads relating to this (bar the linked on) or come across you (OP) or this woman before. However, I don't like being taken for a ride either.

So if this thread comes under "its nicer to believe in things, even if they aren't true sometimes" then I'd rather you didn't bother wasting our time anymore TBH.

If it is true then I suggest that you go about raising awareness in a non confrontational way from now on.

needmorecoffee, thank you for being so nice, yes, please give me the info. She needs a lot of help.

I wish people would not pass judgement so easily. If you have an sn child, why pick on another sn child. Everyone makes mistakes and her imagination is very big.

I thought she had a business partner who filled in all the forms?

She can imagine what she likes providing she stops asking dodgy questions about people's kids.

"Everyone makes mistakes and her imagination is very big."

So is this a wind up then? Is any of it true?

No hulababy, what I'm telling you is true. Gabby wants things to be possible so she believes in things. i don't see any harm in that. My name is Carmen, btw, and yes, I'm her second mum. I'm not related to her, but I've looked after her for many years.

Btw, its not like all MNers tell the truth 100 percent of the time. If she said she lived in italy for 10 years, who cares. Is not like she robbed a bank is it?

I am confused as to what is true and what is imagined in all this now.

Well I'd hazard a guess that she wasn't knocked unconcious yesterday by children throwing rocks, and her understanding of learning disabilities is hazy so I'd guess that she doesn't actually look after kids with LD's. Maybe a deaf child did ask why her teeth were rotten who knows.

?She loves Italy and she likes to tell people she lived there for ages.?. ?Btw, its not like all MNers tell the truth 100 percent of the time. If she said she lived in italy for 10 years, who cares.?.

But people do care. Because people gain credibility and acceptance based on the way they come across and the things that others get to know about them. If it then transpires that some of what they have told people is actually made up, then they stand to lose that credibility because no-one will know what is true and what isn?t, and therefore a lot of people will decide that most of it isn?t.

So Gabby is 24 now? Is that right?

Well, I was thinking, you know: "wie man in den Wald ruft..."

The problem I see with letting her imagination free rein on MN is that on the one hand, she expects to receive and is disappointed when she does not receive sympathy and understanding and have her posts taken for the truth. However she has been posting things, it seems, that are really not true at all. The harm in it is that she is harming herself. Can she not see that?

If people read contradictory posts from Gabby, they will mistrust her and treat her posts with scepticism. I think she has to know for herself, does she want to be taken seriously as an advocate for disabled people in developping countries or does she want to just chat and interact superficially and not take the whole MN thing to heart so much?

If she is going to run a successful charity she must not be adding "imagined" stuff. She needs to be trustworthy, genuine and honest. Or the charity will fail.

yep I was going to ask HQ to do an ISP check, mangosalad (who?) too.

She has rubella syndrome, so its slowed her down a lot. She said she lived in Ital for 10 years because she loves to speak italian (write itaalian) and she wishes she could have lived in Italy for longer than she did. She wanted to chat and I m sure she didn't realise it would have led to trouble. On the other threads, she has told the truth. People do hit her and swear and make fun and throw things. She didn't mean to upset Peachy, she said something the wrong way. Same thing with 2shoes. I really can't understand the insensitivity with some of you. If it were your child, you wouldn't let them take the piss. Is there nothing else to do on a Thursday?

agreed. I think people know not to answer personal questions concerning their children now.

think what you like. if you have nothing better to do tha n hurt others, you're welcome to it.

I have already contacted mumsnet HQ because oI have enough trouble already. Ninedragons and slim22, I undersand why oyou hate chat.

what I'd like to know is, is this charity (while being based in Vietnam) a UK based one??

These threads started with an unwarranted attack on me (thread should still be about somewhere), calling me to order on something that in fact Globetrotter had completely misunderstood- anyone on TTR will verify that shook me rather badly at the time as I was terrified I had said something against SN. That trhread that was misconstrued totally was also a year old and more.

IF GT is doing what has been said then fabulous- good on her. That doesn't mean she has trhe same experiences as a parent of a SN child. She says she has helped them so knows- I worked with SN kids before I had the boys, trust me, its not the same.

the first thread