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Moving to NZ

23 replies

leannesouth · 21/01/2020 17:43

Hi everyone, this is my first time posting so I hope it's ok :)

Me and my partner have been talking about going to New Zealand for a year with our 3 year old son. My partner is planning on working out there and I will continue my studies, we can afford it and are going to start planning this week.

I'm feeling a bit apprehensive but this is our last year that we can do it because of our son starting school next year.

Just seeing if anyone else has done this, looking for some advice and info please.

Thankyou

OP posts:
MarieG10 · 22/01/2020 06:10

Not done...friend did and liked it so much never came back

Good luck and enjoy

coffeeagogo · 22/01/2020 06:26

What kind of advice are you looking for OP? Areas to live? Visas?

Ughmaybenot · 22/01/2020 06:26

What do you need to know? As above really.

LeGrandBleu · 22/01/2020 06:37

@leannesouth have you sorted visas?

lumpy76 · 22/01/2020 06:43

Get visa advice - it's more complicated than it seems. We are emigrating for my DHs work to NZ in May. Also, I would really consider a trip out there first - we did this last October to check things out. Housing and food are expensive and salaries are less but so is tax. Also check out health care as it's very different to the UK and preferably have some private health care in place.

nakedavengeragain · 22/01/2020 06:46

Did it 3 years ago. Still here. Love it. No intention of returning.

What do you need to know?

nakedavengeragain · 22/01/2020 07:35

Visas- as a PP has said are complex. You need to work in an area of skill shortage or have a requisite number of points (based on experience, age and quals). Look on the NZ immigration site and get proper advice

Much depends on where you will live. Auckland is the biggest city but has v high house prices. Think London prices (but you get a bigger house for the price) but also has the most jobs and higher salaries. Weather is sub tropical so cool winters and long hot but wet summers. Plenty of places to live near the beach.

Welly is cheaper and a cooler city and a beautiful location but the weather is significantly worse and it shakes a lot.

South Island totally different again.

Food is pricy but limited, wonderfully seasonal though. Furniture/clothes are expensive and v limited selection. No amazon or ikea!

Salaries are lower but so are taxes. I took a pay cut to come but the lower taxes meant I was on the same as London

It's bloody miles away. Sounds obvious but there's no popping back for a quick visit as it's $1500 each just for the flight. I miss hopping to Europe for a cheap holiday or a weekend away. The only option here is a hop to Australia but even that is 3 hours on a plane and two time zones and pretty expensive. No £30 Easyjet flights!

I had a job lined up (headhunted by NZ firm) and they did all the Visa stuff. Beware though it's complex and takes a long time. From deciding we were going it was 10 months until we actually left. Also pretty expensive. Maybe $2000 each.

You need good health and need pretty intense medicals from one of a handful of private docs. That cost us £500 each

Shipping your belongings takes 3 months on a ship and the contents of a 1 bed flat cost us £5000

Kids school holidays is mid December to end January.

lumpy76 · 22/01/2020 08:06

@nakedavengeragain can you just outline the medical please? I haven't had mine yet...little apprehensive even though I'm healthy!

nakedavengeragain · 22/01/2020 08:14

Chest x-ray (for TB)
Bloods and Urine - testing for diabetes, HIV, Hep and probably a load of other things
Interview with a doc
Weight
Eye test
Blood pressure

We had trouble with BP. Slightly on the high side so went to the medical assessor. Took another 3 months to get clearance. 🙄

mbosnz · 22/01/2020 11:41

I can cover the South Island side of things.

Lower wages than Auckland, but slightly lower living costs - e.g. rent.

Christchurch - quakes are now relatively rare, and not of a damaging magnitude - they had a 4.0 the other day, which is now noteworthy. Colder than 'oop North', and well known for its hot nor' westers, which some people find give them a migraine. Still rebuilding.

Tasman/Golden Bay - lovely area, but can be hard to find work, although seasonal fruitpicking is a goer. Also, lower wages again - often somewhat bitterly referred to as 'sunshine wages'. Because it's a lovely area, everyone wants to live there, which drives wages down. Also, drives rentals up.

LeGrandBleu · 23/01/2020 04:42

Getting a skilled visa is a complicate and costly process especially if you are doing it for only a year. On a working holiday visa, you can't bring a child, so this option is out for you OP and this leaves you with a long visitor visa which will only allow you 9 months max. And you can't work on it.

Mummaofmytribe · 23/01/2020 04:54

It's expensive. We emigrated to Australia 26 yrs ago and my son had just moved to Auckland to live wuth his kiwi partner.
He did this reluctantly but she needs to be near her family.
The reason for his reluctance was his research on the very high costof living and comparatively low wages.
Property prices are crazy.
He's been there 7 or 8 months now and sounded v fed up when we spoke this week as he says they've used the cushion of savings they'd been able to build in Australia and he doesn't see how it's possible to build it up again.
And they both work. And he's in a full-time professional sort of job.
So just be aware of the financial side.

Tinofcurses · 23/01/2020 05:09

I'm just in the process of doing the opposite move - NZ to Scotland after 11ish years over here. Interesting to hear people say salaries are less in NZ. I'm applying for jobs in the UK and looking at taking a massive paycut (like $40,000) if I stay in the same type of job, but maybe I've just been very lucky here. I'm hoping the lower cost of living in the UK will even things out so I won't actually be worse off.

I'm in Wellington, and would recommend it to anyone. I wouldn't be moving if I could convince my family in the UK to come out as well.

The only downside, apart from the distance from the UK, is that housing is terrible (cold and damp) and ridiculously expensive.

coffeeandrainbows · 23/01/2020 05:27

We moved to NZ a few years ago with our two dds and have since had a third ds and we absolute love it. We live on the north shore in Auckland. It’s such a beautiful country and a wonderful place for kids to grow up. Our dc are now 7, 4 and 2 and they spend most weekends and at least one afternoon after school at the beach. It is very expensive to live here, with housing being our biggest cost - and the quality of housing can really vary. Trademe.co.nz is the most widely used site for second hand items so you can se how much furniture items might cost. It also has rentals on to give you an idea of prices.

It’s a big move for just a year but we’ve had such a great experience here that I would definitely recommend it. An international move, especially with dc can be a big adjustment and it probably took me at least 6 months to feel like I was settling in.

If you’ve got any specific questions I’m happy to help. Good luck!

nakedavengeragain · 23/01/2020 06:41

Ooh yes that's a great point to be aware of. Rent is expensive but the housing stock (unless you get a new build area like Te Atatu or Hobsonville) is appalling. You run the risk of damp, leaky and very breezy homes. A huge amount simply don't keep the weather out and central heating doesn't exist.

Also renters are treated like the scum of the earth and there's little to no rental security. Bonkers when we pay $3800 on rent every month and basically ensure that our landlord doesn't have to work...

Having said that I'm sitting here after work on the deck in 24c looking at the beach and ocean with a G&T!

mbosnz · 23/01/2020 11:29

Older housing stock is generally of poor quality - lacking insulation, and very rarely is there double glazing. Central heating is as rare as anything. On the other hand, something we've noticed since being in the UK, is that housing over here is generally built with the sole premise of keeping heat in. NZ housing has to deal with keeping heat in when it's cold, but also, needs to be able to be kept cool in the summer months, when it really can get quite hot, certainly in some areas!

New builds are better, in that they are fully insulated, with double glazing, and usually with heat pumps, which are good for providing both heating and cooling options. Although they cost a fortune to run.

Blueshinycurtains · 24/01/2020 13:21

Im hoping to move out to Blenheim thsi summer when we have the visas sorted, to join my husband already there.
We've got kids age 3,5 and 12 and I'm most worried about the schools. Anyone have experience of their children joining a NZ secondary school??

mbosnz · 24/01/2020 16:18

Blenheim?! I hope you like wine! And sunshine.

Your child, assuming they'll be turning 13, will be starting the first year of high school. If they're 12, they'll be at an intermediate, quite possibly. NZ high school is quite different from UK, it is a hell of a lot less pressure. Some other differences are that you will be expected to buy all stationery, including exercise books. And you'll be hit up for a donation. It's voluntary, but if you can, please pay it, NZ schools are as strapped for cash as UK ones. You'll quite likely find your child is required to BYOD (Bring your own device) to school, as NZ schools are generally a lot more technology focused than UK ones. Uniform isn't quite as nitpicky as it is over here. Exam pressure doesn't really go on until 3 years into high school. You'll most likely be doing NCEA which has a lot of internal assessment.

I'm answering based on having done the opposite move, from NZ to UK with secondary school children. One of mine was still in an intermediate when we came, she got tipped into a new country, new culture, new school, and into a college for the first time!

Blueshinycurtains · 25/01/2020 17:43

@mbosnz thank you so much! That is very useful to know. Think my son will like it more than he is liking current UK secondary school.
Hope your daughter is getting on well in school now?

Blueshinycurtains · 25/01/2020 19:51

@nakedavengeragain hi there hope you are enjoying it out there, Ive just got one question really and that is - how are the New Zealanders towards the English? Particularly children, if you have any at school? It would be great to know

nakedavengeragain · 25/01/2020 20:44

@Blueshinycurtains immigration is taken as read in NZ. No one bats an eyelid at a Brit especially as huge numbers have a UK ancestral line and all of our Kiwi friends have lived and worked in London for much of their twenties and thirties.

No issues at all but Only as long as you assimilate and don't consider yourself above people or the simplicity of NZ life.

Never had any issues and culturally NZ is extremely British anyway. Lots of people don't even realise we are British despite the accent!

No kids.

Blueshinycurtains · 26/01/2020 11:52

Thank you that is really that is good to hear. Well we love Marlborough wine and we love the outdoors! Can't wait to live somewhere that there is more to do than just sit and watch telly of an evening. Intend to integrate to the best of our ability.

I just Googled - 'reasons Brits return from NZ' and found a whole lot of negative stuff. But I guess that is just a few. And you don't know what their situations were like. But always good to have a balanced view.

mbosnz · 26/01/2020 20:29

New Zealanders have a reputation for being a bit cliquey and hard to break into as a social circle. However, I would argue, that this is very normal, and the same over there, as it is here. We've found that barring fellow expats and family, and work colleagues, then people are lovely and friendly, but not inclusive, if you know what I mean.

Try to be respectful of the differences. We are a bi-cultural nation, with a proud indigenous people, the Maori, who are enjoying something of a renaissance, in terms of arts, influence, their language - Te Reo, their place in history, and in particular political influence at both a regional and national level, particularly in matters of environment.

There's a lot of Brits, and some are wonderful, and some - not so much. A bit like Kiwis and Aussies in the UK! If you don't bang on about how superior the UK is (outside of the home - we've told our girls you can always come home and sound off inside these four walls, lol, because all ex-pats have times of frustration and homesickness, particularly in the face of indigenous smugness), and are appreciative of the positives of the country you've chosen to emigrate to, and that has been kind enough to receive you, it goes so much better.

My girls are thriving in this school system, and I hope your young one enjoys his time in NZ.

I remember a friend of mine from school, who joined our school at twelve. He was very much accepted, cool accent and a leather jacket. His singing was bloody appalling though. Wham, no less. (It was the eighties. . .) He was a lot more confident and outgoing than the more reserved Kiwi kids!

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