Can adult dependent live with us in france after brexit?

[Branleuse]

The dream one day is to move to france.
Im in the process of getting an EU passport, and my 2 youngest kids are half french, but my eldest wont have an EU passport. He has a disability though and may never live fully independently. Does anyone know whether we would run into issues or could he be classed as a dependent as an adult?

europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/residence/documents-formalities/non-eu-family-members-residence-card/index_en.htm

If he relies on you for care, then he will be able to get a residence permit once you move there.

Brilliant, thankyou

europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/residence/documents-formalities/non-eu-family-members-residence-card/france/index_en.htm

There's some more information specific to France here.

You cannot just move to another EU country and gets services, you have to be self sufficient to qualify as residents, then you can ask for services.

Wouldnt be to get services. Im not sure what you mean by that?
me and dp either have or will have an EU passport, and so would the other children, but my eldest wont.
Im just wondering whether he would be able to come as he is over 18, without an EU passport in some way as wouldnt move without him. As he has a disability, I just wondered whether he could come as a dependent.
Its all theoretical at the moment

That depends on if you qualify for residence first. Being an EU national is not sufficient.

Legally, you can't be half French: if you have at least one French parent you are entirely French and may have an additional nationality. If your children are registered in Nantes (assuming they were born outside France) then they are properly documented French people and you as their mother can reside in France because they need you and they are French. Your other child is your dependent and you are a family so you live together. This is how the administration sees things.

Ok they are half french in that their dad is french but we havent done the nationality yet but assuming it will be straightforward. Hes on the case. You knew what I meant surely?

Im hoping id qualify for residence as a partner of a french citizen and I will also hold an EU passport when it comes through but not a french one. With free movement in the EU Im assuming an eu passport will allow me to live and work in the eu?

Thanks madamfrench, its really useful

Their births need to be registered in Nantes (this is where all French people born abroad are registered) via the consulate. Once you have a birth certificate you ask for a carte d'identité, this is something only bona fide French people can have, passports aren't. It is easy, usually.

You failed to say in your original post you spouse is French. It makes a huge difference, as you would be applying to reside under French law not EU law - you stated you were going to apply as an an EU national.

You now need to look up whether your eldest child qualifies as the adult dependent of a French national. Otherwise, if you apply independently for FOM under Maastricht treaty etc, whether your eldest child qualifies as an adult dependent of you and you need also to qualify for FOM.

Yes my partner is french but we are not married and my eldest is my son from my first marriage so im not sure he would be seen as a dependent of my spouse. I thought it would have to be of me.

Im going to ask for this to be removed. I feel like i said plenty in my op, and with the extra questions anyone could identify me now

Family members can be defined differently depending on which country and which law.

Unmarried couples, dependent adult children and step children can be family members for example when EU law (regs) apply,

You need to check French reunification laws and EU reunification laws.

Sorry, not the exact same situation, but I also have a disability and I'm on my own in the UK. My mother is French, but she lives in Florida. We were trying to get my French passport for three years, we had to get a nationalities certificate first, since she didn't register me as a baby. I just received it, so I cannot apply for my passport. I still have relatives in France, and I have a lot of Vietnamese friends there too. I'm not sure if I will stay in the UK, or not. This is not the easiest place for me.

I have lived another EU countries, I lived in Italy for a while, and I have spent quite a lot of time in Greece, both places were relatively easier than England in terms of services available. Also, in France, you do have quite a lot available, even if you don't have any residency . It's challenging, and it might be worth asking a lawyer? If you can… My mother had to do this and she really had to push for me to have a passport. It would have taken an additional three years otherwise.

Madame frog, can I ask you if once I have my certificate of nationality, can I also go to the consulate and apply for identity card? I was going to apply for my passport, but can I get both documents at the consulate?

Branleuse I would advise you to join the FB groups Applying for French Nationality and RIFT Remain in France Together, both are a mine of useful information.

Hi Hellokitty, yes, you can apply for everything at once as long as you are recognised as a French person. All these administrative things are more easily done in France though, because if you have another nationality and live in another country they tend to see you as a non-priority.