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Philadelphia

18 replies

Skala123 · 05/05/2017 18:14

So after a year of talking about it, it looks like a move to the States is finally going to happen. We will hopefully move over the summer holidays. DC will be 7 and 4. They will go into public school. Our accommodation will be covered by the company. I'd really like to start researching areas to live. DH will be working in Upper Gwynedd and will need access to the airport. He is happy to have a longer commute for us to be in the right area for me and the kids. I would like to be more rural than urban if possible, good schools obviously, access to parks/open spaces, decent gym etc. Can anyone help?

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Skala123 · 05/05/2017 21:20

No one?!

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MollyHuaCha · 05/05/2017 22:19

I have an American friend who loves living there. But I opened your post expecting it to be about cheese...

Skala123 · 05/05/2017 22:47

GrinGrinshould I change the title?!!

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citychick · 06/05/2017 01:28

there is a lovely town just over the bridge into nj . its called Haddonfield.
high taxes but excellent public schools and gorgeous houses too .
maybe too far but definitely worth a visit.also close to jersey shore for summer rentals. sea isle, avalon and cape may are a few i have visited.
i have a friend in Llandaff, but i don't know the area. her son attends a catholic grade school, i think.

sounds like an exciting time ~ good luck!

Want2bSupermum · 06/05/2017 03:30

Hello! I used to work with someone who lives in the philly suburbs. I will ask them on Monday about areas.

I do know Newtown is known for its good schools. It's not a cheap area but you will find that happens here. Personally, if we were to do the burbs again, I'd want to do New Hope on the PA side, not NJ side if purchasing. NJ has extremely high property taxes compared to PA and each time they go up the value of your home goes down.

maa9144 · 06/05/2017 03:46

Hi,

I would go to www.citydata.com. There is a Pennsylvania forum and Philly has a sub forum under it. You will get all the answers you need

SouthPole · 06/05/2017 04:04

Exciting times!

Husband was in Philly not too long ago and was like "where's all the stuff?!".

But to be fair he's shit at finding things, so...

whyohwhyy · 06/05/2017 04:09

Can I ask why you have posted this number out times in different countries?

Skala123 · 06/05/2017 05:51

Thanks for the replies. Will start looking into it all. I haven't posted about loads of different countries. I have previously asked about Switzerland and New Jersey as they have been strong contenders for a move as the company has large offices in both places. However now we are further down the line with it, Philadelphia is 90% likely.

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Want2bSupermum · 06/05/2017 06:31

why Its really common with international moves that you have a few locations in consideration. I think I recall the OP's DH being in pharma. They have a surprising number of locations you can end up working from.

Skala123 · 06/05/2017 07:04

Can anyone help me with the school system ages? DD will be 7 so will go to elementary but DS will be 4 which I thought meant Kindergarten but I've done some research and it looks like that is from 5? So he would go to pre-kindergarten? Is this something I have to pay for? What sort of hours is it? Thanks

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user1494050295 · 06/05/2017 07:09

Hi I used to live in philly. Downtown. My boss lived in Wayne which isn't far from where you mentioned and sent her children to conestoga high school. I don't remember the primary but do know that area has the best schools in the state. For what it's worth the mainline is nice to live in. Chestnut hill, Ardmore, and you can reach the airport from there. Avoid north philly. Hope that helps.

Skala123 · 06/05/2017 07:38

Thanks User. Can I ask why you suggest avoiding north Philly? I've been looking at Buckingham County?

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mathanxiety · 06/05/2017 07:52

Preschool is usually paid for and also hours can be limited - think maybe a half day with choice of morning or afternoon session, four days a week. Each preschool provider is different. In the case of preschool you would be looking at faith-based or Montessori provision and not your local school district, because the school districts are usually not obliged to educate children below Kdg level. Montessori tends to be expensive.

Many American children go to a full time day care from infancy onwards, which is child care usually available from 7am to 6pm. For 4 year olds, a normal day in such a place would include a taste of school routine and some exposure to literacy and basic numeracy. You pay a lot for daycare, and it isn't really supposed to be primarily a preschool experience - it is childcare. Quite often, parish schools operate a 7am-6pm childcare centre too, but for children aged 3 and up, with children sent to classrooms for class sessions daily and returned to the daycare section afterwards. These arrangements can cost less than a traditional daycare, but you would have to investigate each one you were interested in.

The alternative is that you can often patch together a few classes in different interest areas instead of committing to one single year-long experience. This is especially so in suburban and urban middle class areas where there are facilities and organisations providing an often mind-boggling array of enrichment opportunities, not necessarily to be found in more rural areas.

Children in my very built-up suburban area do dance, gymnastics, music, sport (there is a rink that is open year-round and hockey and figure skating are big) art, swimming, plus trips to museums and such. The local rink and gymnastics centre have drop in hours that are heavily subscribed, as well as organised classes. The local Park District (park and recreation authority) runs classes for all ages including small children in its many facilities, on a rolling basis, usually 8-week sessions. All of my DCs did Park District activities or classes and participated in summer opportunities offered too - drama and sports and swimming lessons in the outdoor pools. The local library is great and offers lots of story times and other activities. There are also many local private gyms and music academies and dance studios.

If I were you, I would look at public facilities as well as schools, for both of your children, when choosing somewhere to live. Public facilities can be fantastic in the US. Look for communities that have local branches running AYSO (American Youth Soccer) and/or T-ball, baseball/softball, tennis clubs, swim clubs - all indications of good communities to hang your hat in.

One of my DCs told me at age 4 that he didn't want to go to school in a big building so I was able to enroll him in successive 8-week sessions of preschool in our local YMCA, attending for 2 hours daily for three days per week. The nice thing for us as a family was that we could skip the session immediately after Christmas when the weather was awful and I didn't feel like bundling up his little baby sister and heading out three mornings a week. They did crafts, art, sang songs, danced, went on a few field trips in a yellow school bus, learned some safety rules at the local fire station (stop, drop and roll, touching hot things and playing with matches or lighters is a big no-no), had circle time and story time and cleaned up after themselves. It was a lovely experience for him.

He went to Kdg at age 5 and turned 6 in early summer of that school year. This is a pretty normal age for Kdg.

Don't be anxious about school. If you choose a good school district and then find somewhere to live you will be fine. American schools tend to encourage confidence and a sense of individual responsibility in students. In a good district standards will be high.

HanShootsFirst · 06/05/2017 08:06

I moved from Philly to the UK last year. We lived downtown so don't know many specifics about that area but do know the general location very well.

North Philadelphia is still part of the City of Philadelphia. It is generally an area with lower income and drugs and crime problems. There are nice parts but definitely not what you are looking for.

Outside the city limits things become suburban and then rural fairly quickly. You will need a car as there is little public transit out there.

Bucks County (not Buckingham) is to the north of the city. It is less expensive than Montgomery County to the northwest because Bucks has no public transportation to Philly so it is all car based. Montgomery County has regional rail so people can commute on the train. If your husband won't use the train probably better not to pay the higher prices. Montgomery County is also far more built up so if you want rural Bucks County is the better way to go.

user1494050295 · 06/05/2017 09:27

Exactly what Hans says re North Philly. Crime low income and not safe. As in the city. The burbs are fine. You will need a car. King of Prussia mall good for shopping too. Best of luck and play on the fact you are from the UK (assuming you are). You will be welcomed with open arms.

Skala123 · 07/05/2017 12:47

Math thanks that's really interesting. Like the idea of patching classes together, really don't want him in full time day care.

Thanks for the info regarding Bucks County as well. DH would drive to work so public transport not an issue.

Will keep researching!

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Want2bSupermum · 07/05/2017 16:10

There are lots of smaller daycares. Personally I've found the ones set up to accept government vouchers to be the best. Where I live they have lower staff turnover as the government requires them to provide benefits to employees. The daycare we use provides daycare and preschool services which are state subsidized. They support staff who want to progress into a teaching role.

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