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Please tell me about living in Germany

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MummyPig24 · 01/11/2014 07:00

Dh has been offered a job near Munich and we are seriously considering it providing the company will pay relocation costs and the pay is right.

We have 3 children, 7, 4 and 7 months. What is the schooling system like? Are there things you dislike about living in Germany? What are the good points? We would be renting a house, do the prices vary greatly between areas? Any info would be appreciated!

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frosch · 05/11/2014 13:16

I live along the A3, in between Düsseldorf and Cologne and have brought up two children in both the German school and private school system, so can help with any questions there!

Living in Germany gives a comprehensive overview of the basics, like bringing your car over, registering, healthcare, etc. As suggested already, Toytown Germany is a good site but posters can get bit chippy at times, like AIBU on glue Grin.

It's lovely here; the only downside for me is that living in a comparatively rural area, attitudes can be conservative but Düsseldorf is much more modern in its outlook!

Please feel free to PM me.

mausmaus · 05/11/2014 13:19

yep
if you think mumsnet is a nest of vipers, toytown is a nest of hydras with scorpion tails :o

frosch · 05/11/2014 13:30

mausmaus Grin

BertieBotts · 05/11/2014 13:45

Hi, I live in Germany too, near Karlsruhe. We've been here just over a year.

You'll need to get a pet passport for your cat - ask your vet about it, they can sort it out for you, look into it ASAP, there are time constraints. That will prevent the need for quarantine. As to how to get them over, you'd have to look at the time/benefits of flying vs driving. Flying is obviously quicker but you wouldn't be able to be with the cat for the journey, and might have to use sedation. Driving you'd have to stop every now and again and either have a litter tray in the car or get your cat used to a harness. Either way there's obviously a risk the cat could escape especially if a well meaning child opened a door or window. If you drive I'd recommend one or two adults doing that alone while other(s) fly with the children.

Generally the child benefit is good, you also get a payment for children under one and children under three. After three childcare is heavily subsidised - your middle one is Kindergarten age (which is not compulsory but I highly recommend), and your oldest will be in the first class of school. Here, the kindergarten costs €94 per month, it's from 7.30 (up to 9.00 drop off) until 2pm (can pick up from 12.30) every weekday and there are only about four weeks of holiday in a year - one at Christmas, three in the summer, and you don't pay for the August month. I guess costs should be similar there. It's higher for under threes, and places are much harder to find, but they are around (Although reserved mostly for working mothers). This has been the best thing for DS, making friends, picking up the language. He loves it. He was 5 when we moved, he's 6 now and almost fluent.

When renting look at www.immobilienscout24.de - it's the german equivalent of rightmove. You'll need cash upfront to move in, usually commission is the bulk of the cost and can be around 2.5 months' rent - which you don't get back. It's huge. You can look for "provisiensfrei" which means without commission but they're still expensive. If the job offers any relocation package or help with finding a place, take it. Someone local to the area can probably advise you how soon you need to look in advance - in Karlsruhe you need to be looking 3-6 months before you want to move, it's crazy.

BertieBotts · 05/11/2014 13:46

Oh and my absolute sanity saver - a group I found on meetup.com. They have a "ladies brunch" twice a month which is like a mini mumsnet (the nice side, not AIBU Grin) and a facebook group, but the FB group is secret so I had to go to the brunch first. Look for something like that when you arrive, it's a lifesaver with small kids.

BertieBotts · 05/11/2014 13:49

Oh yes and the kitchen thing. Look for a place with a kitchen when you first arrive, again immoscout will say on their page if the property has a kitchen. Sometimes you have to buy it from the previous owner, sometimes they leave it for free.

MrTumblesBavarianFanbase · 05/11/2014 14:01

We live near Munich (about 45 mins from the airport). Rents vary massively by area - what we pay for a 4 bed house in a village north of Munich would not even get you a 1 bed flat in Munich proper, and would barely pay for a 2 bed flat in the more fashionabl area outside Munich to the south (triple our rent easily for the equivalent house on the Alps side).

My kids are 9, 7 and 3 but we moved when I was pregnant with the now 7 year old. DH's work paid us a lump moving sum so we pocketed it and DH and his dad drove a Mimi lorry with our stuff and toddler DD and I flew Easy jet. Our rabbit and guinepigs travelled in the moving lorry and were none the worse for it - our landlord allows pets.

Think your other questions have been answered so just wanted to asdd our experience of that part.

I used to be a member of a fb group called parents in Munich but got bored of the rich trailing spouses moaning about being in Germany and the idiosyncratic group admins, and I find it difficult to get into town for meetups as school finishes at 11.20 or 12.15 and I can't really be bothered but it is useful for finding your feet - I think its searchable on fb.

MrTumblesBavarianFanbase · 05/11/2014 14:05

Oh, well that was pointless, should have rtft! :o

MummyPig24 · 10/11/2014 14:11

All info and advice is great, thank you!

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