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Can anyone tell me what it's really like to live in Adelaide?

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MrsOzInUK · 03/05/2014 07:24

Hi, me, DH and our 2 young DS's (age 6 and 3) are moving to Adelaide from Lincolnshire UK for work reasons. Can any one tell me hand on heart what it's like? I have been researching on the web no end but would like some input from mumsnet!

We would be living in the north eastern suburbs I think possibly Norwood but open to suggestions. What are the schools like? Is there a beachy kind of lifestyle? Is is a chaotic or calmer city? What are the good/ bad things about life in Adelaide? Thank you.

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Kaza1 · 03/05/2014 07:57

Watching with interest. We're hoping to move to Australia early next year & Adelaide is on our list. Good luck. When are you going? X

Neverknowingly · 03/05/2014 10:19

I will see if I can get my DH to post later/tomorrow - he is Adelaide born and bred. He definitely wants to move back there. Never really heard him mention any terrible areas although I know he hates Elizabeth. He always describes it as basically a large farming/country town with a lot (but not all) of the benefits of being a big city (he sees that in itself as being a benefit). So calm rather than chaotic. He's been pretty happy of late about the extension of the southern expressway (at present it is inbound in the morning and outbound in the afternoon and they are making it two-way which I guess is a sign of Adelaide getting bigger) but that would not directly affect you in the North suburbs I guess.

You won't get an unbiased opinion of the schools though - he thinks Australian schools generally are better (fairer certainly and more consistency of quality of education) than the UK. OTOH the only friends we have in Adelaide with school age children currently send their kids to Scotch College so not really comparable to general education.

There are gorgeous beaches around Adelaide - Moana/Port Noarlunga among our favourite laid back beaches and in/around Norwood you would be close to the more active locations of Glenelg/West Beach and of course there are the very useful communal bbq facilities everywhere which always amaze me in terms of how well looked after they are. I would say it is a very beachy lifestyle - certainly his childhood was (lots of scuba diving, BBQs with yabbies etc) and nearly all his cousins (who still live there) are surfers/lifesavers.

Methren · 03/05/2014 11:14

Hi MrsOz, I have lived in the UK for more than a decade (so my input might not be the most up-to-date) but was born and grew up in Adelaide and most of my family still live there.

Norwood would be a good choice (I used to live thereSmile). It is close to the city centre, but has good local shops, lots of restaurants, and is a nice leafy safe suburb. There is a big shopping centre with supermarkets, butchers, greengrocers, bakers etc (it is common in Australia buy groceries at a supermarket but but meat/fruit&veg/bread from smaller specialist shops). I can't comment much on state schools as i was privately educated but I'd be surprised if Norwood schools were terrible. Adelaide suburbs are pretty homogeneous in terms of residents and Norwood would be mostly a middle-class demographic. There are also lots of private schools in that area, and in general private schooling is much cheaper in Australia than in the UK (about 40% of children are educated privately in Australia compared with 7% in the UK). The school system works a little differently to the UK in that state schools are all secular, and all religious schools (e.g. Catholic schools) are private. Private schools can be religious or secular.

To be honest, you wouldn't go far wrong living in pretty much any of the suburbs close the the city centre on the eastern (e.g. Norwood, Tusmore, Kensington), southern (e.g. Unley) or northern (e.g. North Adelaide, Walkerville) sides. The further you go from the city proper, the "newer" the suburbs get - new builds tend to have less outside space than older houses and can be crammed quite close together on new-build housing estates (acres of soulless rooftops). For this reason I would avoid places like the newer suburbs to the south of the city, even though they are closer to the beaches. Definitely avoid the further-out northern suburbs (Elizabeth etc) which can be, for want of a better word, chavvy.

Adelaide is a very calm city with a slower pace of life. Rundle Mall, the main pedestrian shopping strip in the city, looks half-deserted to me now after London streets, even on a busy day! The southern beaches such as Moana and Sellick's are lovely and not crowded. Closer suburban beaches like Henley beach are also good and have the advantage of nearby beachfront restaurants (avoid Glenelg/West Beach as they tend to be crowded and touristy). The Adelaide Hills also wouldn't be far from Norwood - lots of lovely little towns, a wildlife park, nice scenery. Most suburbs have a large recreation ground with ovals/playgrounds etc, and outdoor public swimming pools (Burnside Pool is not far from Norwood).

Most people drive everywhere (I can't quite get used to driving short distances I would happily walk in the UK when we go back there visiting). Public transport is mostly buses and is OK but not great. Supermarkets have a good range of products, but online supermarket shopping aren't really big there yet, which might be a shock if you're used to the convenience of Ocado/Sainsbury's/Asda deliveries!

The weather gets very hot in summer. In the last few years there have been heatwaves of multiple days of 40C in January/February. When it is this hot you can't really go outside during the day (especially with small DCs). Make sure you house has air-conditioning - it is essential. Winter is pretty mild - temperatures in single figures are rare. Rain is unusual - drought and hosepipe bans are common in summer.

Hope that helps - it's a nice place to live and I hope you enjoy your time there!

MrsOzInUK · 03/05/2014 13:37

Thank you, lots of positive things. We are going out in October. Terrified to be honest but also excited and trying to embrace it as a bit of an adventure. We have no family ties here so aren't too worried about the distance or isolation from them. We are looking into schools for DS1. We love the look of Norwood and the surrounding areas but I know the reality could still be a shock to the system. The weather sounds amazing to be honest. The beach lifestyle is appealing too.

My friends are also emigrating to Australia but in January and they've ruled out Adelaide as they are saying it seems really old fashioned and like it's still stuck in the 70s in terms of amenities and attitudes of residents. That seems a huge stereotype to me and from what I have researched it seems beautiful. Having said that, they have opted for Brisbane which also seems lovely but we don't get to decide the city due to DH's job transfer.

The main thing that worries me about Australia is the spiders, I know that's pathetic isn't it? But here I am so used to just throwing open the back door and letting the boys play out on the patio and in the garden, I think I'd be scared they'll go poking in a spider's web and get bitten by something nasty! I know a lot of people in Oz and all say it's not a problem for them and they have rarely encountered anything other than Huntsmen spiders (which still scare the shit out of me!) I just want them to have this beautiful out door lifestyle and hoping the spiders don't turn me into a paranoid wreck!

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saffronwblue · 06/05/2014 01:22

Adelaide is gorgeous. I grew up there, now live in Melbourne but go to Adelaide several times a year for work and family. My sisters both live near Norwood and it is really lovely. While Adelaide can feel like a large country town there are increasingly big international events. 'Mad March' is amazing with a huge Arts Festival, Womadelaide music festival and some stupid car race as well.

South Australia was famous in the 70s for being socially progressive (and also gave women the vote in 1892) and traces of this still linger. People I know are passionate about support for asylum seekers and other areas of social justice. Other people are passionate about theatre, music, good food and wine and sport. Be prepared for some really achingly hot days when you don't much want to be outside.
Agree to aim for some of the older inner north and eastern suburbs or even the hills. The new developments are a bit soulless. Make sure you get to Kangaroo Island at some time - it is a truly extraordinary place.

saffronwblue · 06/05/2014 01:25

My nephews went to Magill primary which was lovely at the time. Like Methren most people I know went to private schools for secondary. 'Where did you go to school' can be a bit of a thing. Glenunga High has a good reputation.

Tortoiseonthehalfshell · 06/05/2014 02:51

I've lived in Adelaide for twenty years (and I went to Glenunga!). There's a few MNetters here; we had a meetup with about eight of us a few years back and I'm sure there's more.

Inner north eastern - Norwood etc - is about the best place you can be. Or the Hills. I live in Stirling which is just utterly and completely gorgeous; boutique cafes and homewares shops, artisan wine and cheese and chocolate, etc. I'm not sure what 'stuck in the seventies' means in terms of amenities? We have wifi cafes and amazing coffee and trendy gastropubs and Oystercard equivalents and the internet is functionally decent these days - without knowing what they were referring to, I can't help! As for attitudes, I think you find your own circles, don't you? Everyone I know is a middle class left-leaning progressive pro-asylum seeker feminist, but I understand that this is not necessarily typical anywhere in the world...

It gets very hot in the middle of summer, which you presumably already know. It hit 45 this January, but that's unusual - it does get to 40 every summer, though, for a few days. Having said that, almost every house, office and car is air conditioned, so it's not as bad as it would be over there.

Spiders; we have huntsmen, which don't make webs and aren't poisonous to humans. They eat the mosquitoes so we don't put them out of the house, but it's not like there's a plague; we have three! No other dangerous spiders in Adelaide; funnelwebs and redbacks tend to live in the East. If you're in the hills, watch out for brown snakes. Not really an issue in the suburbs.

saffronwblue · 06/05/2014 08:32

Don't want to be alarmist but my mother has had redbacks in Walkerville.

Methren · 06/05/2014 09:34

Definitely redback spiders in Adelaide! They are small and live outdoors, hiding in nooks and crannies (underneath exterior window sills, under fences, next to pipes). They are not aggressive and will only bite if you invade their territory (e.g. by putting your hand next to one) DCs need to be taught not to put their fingers/hands into places that redbacks might live (e.g. to retrieve toys/balls from garden recesses with a stick or other implement rather then their hands).

There are also white-tailed spiders (medium-sized black body, white tip to abdomen) whose bite can cause a nasty local reaction (but not fatal Smile). These will often get indoors. Huntsman spiders are large and look alarming but are harmless.

I lived in Adelaide for 30 years and never once saw a snake in wild (or in a backyard). However do warn DCs not to pick up/disturb large pieces of bark if you go for walks in bushland, just in case.

Blue-tongue lizards are common in suburbia - large grey lizards, can often be seen warming themselves in a sunny spot. May make a scary hissing sound but not poisonous (can bite though).

Lol at Adelaide being considered more old-fashioned than Brisbane - there is a long history of Queensland being thought of as more "backward" than the other states (hasten to say that this is a stereotype and I'm not intending any offence to Queenslanders - I have Qld relatives myself!). That said, Adelaide will definitely seem more parochial than larger UK cities. There are cultural events but these tend to be time-limited - so short festivals, concerts, touring runs of musicals or opera - rather than having lots of choice all year round. There is basically one museum, which is small but good for DCs. One art gallery ditto. The zoo is excellent (and has pandas!), as is Cleland Wildlife Park.

Like other Australian cities, Adelaide is very multicultural due to immigration - e.g. from southern Europe from the 50's onwards, and south-east Asia from the 70's. Norwood, for example, has a large population of Italian origin, which is reflected in the local restaurants and coffee shops (great coffee and cakes!). Some of the older generations of Anglo-Saxon origin can still be rather xenophobe, but this would be unusual in people of my generation (I was born in the 70's).

I personally wouldn't recommend living in the hills because of the bushfire risk, but I know people who live in Stirling/Crafers and love it.

MrsOzInUK · 07/05/2014 15:12

Thanks very much everyone. Looking forward to it. Still loving the sound of it and have researched more into Norwood and it seems to be the perfect option for our family.

I like the sound of the multiculturism, something Australia doesn't really get credit for because I've read on many threads about the racism etc and it has concerned me. I don't want my children to grow up thinking anyone should ne judged because of where they come from or what colour their skin is. My eldest at the moment is in a very multicultural school and loves learning about different religions and the different languages his friends can speak. I love that there is no prejudice. Having said that, I am sure it exists in the UK. Just very lucky where we are it's not a problem.

I need to relax about the spider thing but it is hard. DH isn't phased by spiders at all and doesn't have any real phobias so he can't really understand where I'm coming from but I am literally terrified of small British garden spiders, I don't know how on earth I will deal with the possibility of deadly redbacks in close proximity to my children. I want them to be able to play outside and have a fantastic childhood but my fear is every time they step outside I will panic. Even inside, in the UK I already freak out and shake any clothes, towels etc that thave been lying on the floor just incase there's anything crawled into them! I don't know how I will cope with Huntsmen because they may be harmless but the buggers don't look harmless! They are huge. Argh. It's stupid I know but this is the only real issue that is preventing me from seeing it as an amazing adventure. I just keep panicking that one of the boys will get bitten or the first time I see a spider (even if it's harmless!) I will convince myself it's something horrendous and be on the next flight back to England. I need to get a grip don't I?! The lizzards/ geckos/ snakes don't bother me at all. Just the spiders! I am seriously looking at hypnotherapy or something to help me deal with it.

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Sleepytea · 07/05/2014 20:21

You can pay someone to come and spray your property to reduce spiders, cockroaches and other insects. It's not too expensive and gave me peace of mind. State Schools in Norwood are good, even at secondary level, although many people use private for secondary. We used state swim on the Parade for swimming lessons, has a good reputation and kids move through classes quickly.

Tortoiseonthehalfshell · 08/05/2014 00:30

I promise that your children can play outside! I absolutely tip mine out of the house in the morning and leave them to it.

I only know about the snakes because of living in the Hills, by the way; not really going to be an issue in Norwood. Maybe hypnotherapy as a condition of agreeing to move is a good idea. A phobia is a phobia.

Bushfire risk is very small in the built-up parts of the Hills, Methren; the whole landscape is very different from when Ash Wednesday came through. I'd avoid Ashton and the like, but the whole spine of the freeway - eh.

MrsOzInUK · 08/05/2014 14:16

Thanks Tortoise that is very reassuring. I like the outdoors here, I love walking and my boys and DH are very into bushcraft, woodlands, walking, climbing etc and I'd hate for my stupid phobia to mean that they don't get the out door lifestyle they love. I also love swimming and the beach so I am looking forward to that.

Can anyone tell me about shopping in Adelaide? Is there a main 'High Street@ like a town or is it more districts and precincts scattered about? Is there a main Mall or shopping centre? Are there large supermarkets like Woolworths etc? Are there decent clothing shops for children? I have heard that children's clothing in Australia is very expensive, is that something to worry about? Sorry for the million questions, just trying to picture our lives out there and factor in everything. Thank you.

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lulalullabye · 11/05/2014 01:46

Ok, we live in Burnside which is a neighbouring suburb to Norwood, a bit more in the foothills and leafy. We did live in Norwood when we first came from the Uk and it was great. ALL the schools in the Eastern suburbs are great, Norwood school scores really highly but they are all much the same. This area has two of the best state high schools in Adelaide so a pretty good bet.
We love living here, as said already, our children go out into the garden all the time. They do poke around with sticks and do find things but they know not to touch. Where we are we have Blue tongue Lizards with copious amounts of babies in summer, Masses of Koalas in our trees, kookaburras, etc etc. We do also have spiders including red backs, white tails etc but you just live with them, huntsmans are left alone, the others we kill.
The city is great, you can drive into there at nearly everytime of day. Great restaurants etc etc. Beaches are great, the Adelaide hills are beautiful and only 20 mins from Norwood.
I could go on and on. We lived in Melbourne for a year and Adelaide far outweighs Melbourne for us.

differentnameforthis · 11/05/2014 02:37

WRT the spiders & kids...what we do is spray outside with a barrier spray, which is supposed to last 6mths. But we do it every few months.

You will need to get the kids used to looking out for them, but of all the time I have been yelled at asked to investigate a spider, it has never been a redback.

That isn't to say we don't get them, we do. But they aren't often seen running around during the day.

Rule of thumb, shoes on always in the garden & keep your eyes open. Their web is usually quite disorganised, so can be distinctive.

It becomes second nature, you don't actually realise you are doing it :)

differentnameforthis · 11/05/2014 02:39

I have lived here for almost 8yrs. My youngest wonders around barefoot (she is a typical Aussie) and the only things that have bothered her is Bees. And mozzies.

None of us (2 adults, 2 children) have been attacked by anything other than bees or mozzies.

MadonnaKebab · 11/05/2014 03:20

I recently spent a week in Adelaide for a conference
The main shopping area is Rundle Mall and has a pretty good variety of shops
There's a really nice zoo ( with Pandas!) and Botanical gardens
More Heritage buildings have been retained in the city centre than other Australian cities, especially the University, museum and art gallery
I really liked it!

saffronwblue · 11/05/2014 04:40

Adelaide Central Market is wonderful for food. Lots of shopping centres in the suburbs.
The Norwood pool is a little hidden gem.
www.norwoodpool.info/NorwoodPool/Home.html

Romalo · 11/05/2014 06:04

I live in Norwood (moved from Scotland). It is absolutely fantastic Grin. Could not imagine a better place to live or bring up children.

lulalullabye · 11/05/2014 08:36

Hi Romalo, long time no see. How are you??

Romalo · 11/05/2014 11:55

Good thank you lula, quite liking the change in the seasons and the winter footy! How are you doing?

lulalullabye · 14/05/2014 07:31

All good. The weather at the moment is amazing hey! not into the footie but Dh sure is. He has managed to score free tickets quite a few times!

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