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Living overseas

Whether you're considering emigrating or an expat abroad, you'll find likeminds on this forum.

Anyone here emigrated/living in Canada...

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Callisto · 28/07/2006 12:15

...and what is it like? DP and I are considering Oz or Canada based mainly on education, health service and lifestyle. I know next to nothing about Canada apart from it is hugely big, it is very beautiful and it spends six months under snow. If any MNers could tell me the best places to live/work and all of the pluses and minuses I would be very grateful.

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Callisto · 02/08/2006 08:43

Interesting to hear different points of view. It is not wanderlust, though I have lived in different countries before (Italy & Belgium) it is more lifestyle and giving dd the best start in life which I think will be easier in canada/australia than in gb. There are so many things in this country that depress me - the decline in farming and the countryside, the cost of housing, the state of the nhs/education/public transport, chav culture (a contradiction in terms somehow!) and many more. I am at a low point too as I feel utterly ashamed that GB is supporting USA and Israel. I realise that I have very many things to be grateful for in this country but they seem to be getting fewer and coming under threat.

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FanjoFanjoWhosGotTheFanjo · 02/08/2006 08:54

Hmmm. Things I don't miss about Canada:

  • much stronger consumer culture
  • religions stronger, particularly from US influence
  • an overwhelming need to continually prove we're different from Americans
  • politics largely follow the US, more so than here, I think. (Although they've stood up to the US on Cuba, and maybe marijuana? But a new conservative gov't may change all that)
  • stupid bloody Quebec/anglo stupidity, on both sides.
  • car culture
  • no footpaths
  • less organic food

I do think food is generally better in Canada, and some aspects of UK culture bug me (drinking, and never being direct/straightforward).

FanjoFanjoWhosGotTheFanjo · 02/08/2006 08:55

Oh, public transit is better (cleaner, etc) in Canada, but there isn't that much of it. The train service essentially doesn't exist except along a fairly narrow route. You need a car, unless you live in a big city.

Callisto · 02/08/2006 11:18

NQC - I love your comment about Montreal: 'it's just too small really'. I first skim read it and thought - canada is too small??? And she has come to britain???

I really don't want to live in a city anywhere in the world, much rather small town/village with a city within a couple of hours. From that point of view I think Canada has a lot more to offer than GB. And having looked at some of the Canadian job sites, DP will get a good job out there easily - far more opportunity than here with equivalent salary and much lower cost of living. I am a bit concerned about the mosquito thing and West Nile Disease - anyone have any first hand experience? And are mossies canada-wide or just in certain areas?

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chai18 · 02/08/2006 11:58

A friend got married to a Canadian and wants to reside there. His immigration lawyer says it'll cost $3,500 and take 8 months. Does that sound right?

Callisto · 02/08/2006 13:25

I have no idea on cost yet, but $3,500 sounds cheap to reasonable. As for taking 8 months, I have heard anywhere between 6 to 40 months.

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Amanda1 · 02/08/2006 13:34

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NotQuiteCockney · 02/08/2006 14:37

Oh, yes, in some parts of Canada it's too far the other way re: drinking. I just would like to be able to have some social events (or heck, even school events!) without alcohol being ever-present.

When I was working, I made much much more money here than in Canada. I think the tax burden is higher in Canada (income taxes are much higher, although the sales tax is a bit lower ... but visible, so you never know how much anything costs!).

I don't think you should need an immigration lawyer if you're going across on a spousal visa, surely? Or even any visa? I came over on the ancestry program (basically, I had a grandparent born here, I am from a commonwealth country, and have no criminal record etc, so I could say, "hey my granmother made a mistake, can I come back?" and they more or less had to let me back.). It will take time, I'm sure of that, though.

It is a points system, you get points for (from what I remember)

  • speaking one or both official languages
  • having relatives there
  • having relevant degrees, or just general education
  • your area of work.

It's a pretty straightforward system, Canada wants immigrants, so it's not that hard to move there.

NotQuiteCockney · 02/08/2006 14:49

Oh, and Callisto, Montreal really is quite a small city. Maybe 2 million people? Not sure. But if you stick to anglos, mostly, and certain social circles, it gets very small and claustrophobic indeed.

That being said, of course now I have kids, I run into people I know everywhere, and it's all quite cozy and inbred. But at least everyone's not sleeping with each other (at least not as far as I know!) so it's still much less annoying.

Callisto · 02/08/2006 15:54

Ahhh, but when you live in a village of around 2,000 souls anything bigger than 20,000 seems enourmous!

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