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Anyone else feel their life is on hold?

33 replies

Salbertina · 21/09/2013 17:16

That's it really. Dependent on dh, no work identity. Been here a while, some fun friends. Just waiting to go back to UK.

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Salbertina · 24/09/2013 22:22

Mac, no need to apologise, i agree with you! Am saying same thing really but from a different perspective. Think it's easy to kid yourself for a few months then reality hits, esp seeing the kids and their struggles. Just got to unravel it all now - quite a bit to sort before getting in that plane. Will go home older and much wiser! But yes, don't want regrets.

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MacMac123 · 25/09/2013 08:31

Well good luck with it sal! My DH has been offered to go to Oz. I've told him he can go but the kids and I are staying here! This doesn't mean we'd be breaking up but I'm not uprooting everything for some corporation that always makes excuses when it comes to giving properly decent pay rises!
Even if they were going to be paying him200k I wouldn't go!!
(although he'd be welcome to and he could post the cash back to me!!) Grin

Salbertina · 25/09/2013 08:55

Thanks, Mac! So it's a serious prospect then? From my experience, the package is key even more than the salary- so if you are considering it, are additional costs which you wouldn't incur in UK covered? Education, medical, flights, settling in allowance, accom alllowance etc. heard Oz expensive!

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RichManPoorManBeggarmanThief · 25/09/2013 12:25

Although Mac I have to say that your friends are probably showing you the edited highlights of HK. At least 50% of trailing spouses I know work, and many of those that don't would probably have been SAHP in the UK anyway. I think in terms of how much being an expat impacts the life of the trailing spouse depends on a lot of things, such as length of "posting" and autonomy over how long you stay- we could well end up staying in HK for the best part of a decade, so definitely time to put roots down- it's much harder for trailing spouses if you're doing 2 yrs here, 18 month there, especially with children in tow.

Also, if there is a defined expat population who are socially segregated from the local population by some factor (cultural or language) that helps, as then expats basically have to be friends with each other - makes for an inclusive and friendly environment as no-one has long standing friendship groups to rely on. Weirdly, I think Australia is quite a tough gig because that's not the case.

I'm divided on package. The old expat packages are dying out in HK (not so much in Singapore) and I think it creates a more diverse expat population, and because more people are on local contracts vs home country secondments, they have more autonomy over how long they stay. It also produces a better working environment because everyone's on an equal footing.

Anyway, I guess what I'm saying is that there are tough expat experiences, and really positive ones. It can work out, but it's not for everybody.

Longdistance · 25/09/2013 16:58

I always get the 'its better for the kids' crap spouted at to me.

Just to make me feel really guilty. My dh said this to me once, and I just exploded at him tosser because I was feeling homesick, and not settled at all. He flung that in my face to try shut me up, but it didn't work.

It's no better for kids here, than the Uk. Yes, you get the outdoors lifestyle, but in the summer when it reaches high 30's/40's'c, you can't out in the heat from 11 til 3 as the UV rays are so strong, it's ridiculous.

MacMac123 · 25/09/2013 20:47

No Sal, I'd never go! (unsupportive wifeWink)

RichManPoorManBeggarmanThief · 26/09/2013 01:05

Long I agree- there are happy kids in pretty much every country of the world and also miserable kids. You can give a child a happy childhood wherever, and there are pros and cons to everywhere.

e.g HK is very safe and there's less materialistic pressure to be cool and have the latest stuff (despite the expat population being quite affluent). Kids can have independence quite young (eg 10 yr olds getting buses and taxis alone) but at the same time they're under less pressure to be into teenage stuff aged 8 and there is a kudos to achieving academically (Chinese culture filtering through I guess) so the geeks dont get socially sidelined. However, the lack of space is an issue- if we were in the UK we'd have a house with a garden. Here we're in an apartment, so if they want to play out, someone always has to go with them.

helzapoppin2 · 26/09/2013 12:08

Salbertina, I came back last year after five years in the USA. I'm really happy to be back. I think we can cope with most things, but uncertainty really can niggle at you. I had friends, volunteer work I loved, but couldn't stand that thing of being a "guest" in another country. It wore very thin.
I'd been there so long that HR at my hubby's work had changed personnel several times and forgotten about me!
What gave me a little feeling of satisfaction was when somebody (anybody) moved on. It made me think " One day that'll be me!"
And then, one day it was!

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