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Cyber Glühwein und Lebkuchen - the German and Austrian advent thread

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admylin · 02/12/2012 11:24

A thread for anyone living in Germany or Austria, or anyone else who fancies a chat.

Happy first Advent to everyone!

Previous thread: here

OP posts:
itsMYNutella · 12/12/2012 09:31

cheas i have a recipe for very similar biscuits, it's chocolatey with about 30g of cocoa powder instead of the pudding powder.... So they turn out like shortbread, I think. It's from a Nigella book (ha ha almost wrote Nutella book :) ) and in the instructions you squash them with a fork - I made them at the weekend... Germaness must be stealthily creeping up on me Shock

platanos I will ask the hebammen for a signed document for when the scales were last set to 3600g calibrated Xmas Wink

Linzer could not go a bit American and have a little sign that you put out which says "your path was swept today by Linzer, have a nice day" :)

whatwould I've seen people ask on forums about Santa grotto pics in Germany and as far as I know they don't do it here.... But fingers crossed you find one at British Christmas thingy.

ploom I promise to be very excited if you have the next thread baby!

grinch how is the house of grinch today? Hope you are all much better. We've been lucky and only have/had snotty colds here so nothing to moan about really. Sending my best get well vibes!

hupa that wii game sounds like fun! DP sold his playstation recently because he never uses it, but a wii might be fun Hmm not something we can afford but he deserves a treat... Maybe I'll save up some pennies for him...

Have a great day everyone else. I have nothing planned :o except more curtain hemming.... Almost done

TheUKGrinchImGluhweinkeller · 12/12/2012 10:10

Ploom thanks for that information about how your foot's being treated - I have never heard of ultrasound used for things like that, wonder how it works? At the moment mine is improved, but getting the shoe on with the insole in is incredibly painful and anyone who speaks to me while I'm putting my snow boot on gets snapped at Blush once its on I can walk OK on the flat, though for some reason stairs are painful - must use the foot differently on stairs. If it flairs up again I will ask about ultrasound.

The Monopoly is hidden away in the Keller as an extra Christmas present - it will be for all the kids but I was thinking of DS1 when wanting the junior version, as he'd need a lot of help with the money in the adult version, and also the playing time is more suitable, hopefully it will be an enjoyable game to play between Christmas and new year - I like board games as an alternative I can suggest to imaginative play with the DCs - I love it when they play imaginatively together, but have having to join in and play Playmobile or role play games! Maybe before too long the big ones will be able to play it together without me, like they do Nino Delphino (which is forgiven its plastic tack appearance because they play it without adult intervention, as they used to play Obst garden, though they have really grown out of that with its pleasing wooden pieces, sadly).

I was going to say our weather sounds exactly like yours - both now and forecast (boo hiss at the rain forecast - was hoping for a Christmas market and sledging based weekend, winter rain is so depressing as it keeps the kids you indoors more than snow) but then that's hardly surprising as you are not actually that far away from us, relatively speaking.

cheas well done on all the Pletzchen baking! I hope you make it through the snow this afternoon without it taking forever, which ever way you tackle it!

Linzer that is a lot of snow shovelling! When I mention the obligation to do it to friends in the UK they always question what people who are not physically able to shovel do, and I have said I'm not sure but there is more of a sense of community here in general so neighbours probably do it - sounds like that's true in your case at least but I'm glad we only have to do in front of our own house, and our own drive. Hope you get a decent turn out to the Adventmarkt after all.

Hupa hope your DD had a good birthday? MMost people seem to rave about the wii fit for the first few weeks then not use it for a year! DH had a wii (not fit) a few years ago but I made him persuaded him to sell it after he randomly went out and bought himself a ?500 electric guitar and a cheaper acoustic one for away from home, despite not being able to play the guitar... (he did teach himself to play it well enough to play simple songs, but it has mostly languished untouched after the initial enthusiasm, as predicted, which is actually a pity as for a few months he used to sing old folk songs with the acoustic ones for them to sing along... DD at 5 singing "Whisky in the Jar" through word perfect was quite funny :) ) Enjoy your DH's time off :)

Santa no Santa is an import here so santas grottos are not the norm - that said Nikolaus sits in a decorated wooden hut at one of the Christmas markets near us rather than walking around and children can write wishes on paper stars and give the to him, and he hangs them on a tree - so that is similar the santas grotto idea I guess. Like Ploom 's children mine were afraid of Nikolaus/ Father Christmas (or anyone in a costume that covered all or part of their face as the fake beard does, or worse still masks or costumes that cover the whole face like mascots with big padded heads... ) so I have never had any interest in seeking him out! They are not scared now, but plonking a 7 year old girl on a strange man's knee would seem a decidedly odd thing to do... Where we live you are more likely to see Nikolaus in the traditional bishops outfit than a coca-cola style santa, but I don't know if that is a localised / southern thing? I have read on a forum for English speakers in Munich that there is a shopping mall with a Santa's grotto in Munich, so that might be the sort of place to look in Frankfurt. You could try asking on Toytown's Frankfurt section (Toytown isn't the friendliest forum but useful for that kind of info).

Plantanos did you get to the doctor? Was he or she any help? I was at the doc with ds2 today as he's the only one still properly poorly now, and has had diarrhoea for 5 days now, which is too long, although as long as I keep him on dry, plain foods he's not being sick. Came out with prescriptions for dried yeast, which will apparently re-balance his digestion (and is hard to make him take even mixed with apple juice as suggested) as well as rehydration sachets and anti vomit medicine.

Nutella booking things like hair cuts for around your due date is an excellent way to tempt fate and hurry baby out :o Mind you I had my hair cut just before each of my children was born, on the correct assumption I wouldn't get a chance to do it again for years a while after!

I have never left any of my kids alone in a hotel room - I'd be more worried about them awaking up and climbing out of the window or turning on the bath taps and climbing into a scalding hot bath and/ or drowning, or one of a hundred other accidents they could have (quietly like every toddler up to mischief) unattended in an understandably not childproof room, than about them being stolen - only my middle one has ever really been a child you could rely on to stay asleep once asleep anyway, so it just hasn't been an option. We went away to an expensive ski hotel with my parents a few years ago, they kindly paid for us, so it was their "type" of place - with a 5 course evening meal... the hotel catered well to the children with their food brought first, but still they were horribly bored and so got naughty after a while, esp DS1 who was 2 then - my mother suggested I go and put them to bed and then come back down so I could enjoy my meal in peace, and I must admit I (metaphorically) bit her head off for suggesting it. I much prefer self catering holidays with small children to be honest, much less stressful!

Well that is much too long and DS2 is squirming on my lap, unable to get to sleep, so I'll move the laptop and try to get him to sleep!

Does anyone else have oil heating btw? Our oil provider is in trouble and we are nearly out of oil - looks like a big bill (in the ?3000 range) coming up - gulp! :(

Ploom · 12/12/2012 10:24

Those plätzchen look good cheas and simple too. Hope you get to kiga later ok - you do live at the top of a very big hill!

nutella - There is no chance of another ploomchen - my tubes are all tied up!

Snow moan - I spent 30 mins clearing snow then went to the GP then to the dry cleaners - was out for about an hour and its obviously snowed the whole time & it looks like I didnt shovel at all!! AngryAngry

So I've cheered myself up with a toasted raisin roll (I blame cheas for my addiction) and a cup of teaGrin.

itsMYNutella · 12/12/2012 10:34

grinch sorry to hear DS2 is still poorly, I'm not sure I'd be thrilled about being given yeast to drink either Hmm DP would probably ask if it was possible to enjoy it via a wheat beer Xmas Wink hope DS gets much better soon.
Yes, the haircut is like insurance, it will either guarantee the baby's arrival or at least be a distraction from simply being massive.

itsMYNutella · 12/12/2012 10:37

ploom is that one of those rolls that is a little like a tea cake? Hmmmm.... It keeps snowing here too, but now I'm practically sweating because DP has turned the heating up Blush

LinzerChristkindlmarkt · 12/12/2012 10:43

Ploom Oh no, how annoying! (Even if it is a good excuse for a toasted raisin roll Grin). No sign of any more snow here, thank goodness, but I've definitely done my share of shovelling for the day.

Grinch You can pay people to come and shovel your snow for you; one of my friends does and I think she said she pays just over ?100 a year. We actually only agreed to clear a shovel-wide path up to our elderly neighbours' house, but I did it all (except for the last 5 metres, as they keep their garden gate locked and I wasn't sure she'd appreciate me ringing the doorbell at 8 am) out of the goodness of my heart. Hmm Grin

Agree that all the scenarios you mentioned are far more likely than a child being abducted from a hotel room by a stranger. However, once our DC are asleep, you can almost always rely on them to stay asleep - and if they wake up, they never do anything more than call "Mummeeee!". If they were the type to get up, I wouldn't have left them alone (plus Kinderhotels are very child-friendly/safe anyway, e.g. a child wouldn't be able to open a window and fall out). Fire would be my biggest concern, but I'm pretty sure that all Kinderhotels have smoke detectors in the rooms - and the likelihood of a fire suddenly starting when all the DC are in bed asleep must be extremely small. But I can completely understand parents not feeling comfortable about not leaving their DC alone in a hotel room.

Nutella Your suggestion made me laugh and then go and bastel a sign. Grin I like the sound of a Nutella book; I would definitely buy it!

cheas Those biscuits look nice. I was thinking the other day that I should really bake some Weihnachtskekse (why does that sound better than Christmas biscuits? Hmm) as I'm getting a bit bored with MIL's after nearly 20 years and don't find the ones DH made particularly tasty (they were from a packet mix, what more can I say? Grin).

adventkerzylin · 12/12/2012 10:44

Snow here too. Well done all you early snow clearers and ploom can you get the dc out doing the next shift after school? I've stood with my back to the window doing my ironing and hoping it would stop/start raining or something so I don't have to clear the drive but it's still there so I'd better go out and do it soon.

Glad you're feeling abit better grinch and hope more thgan one parent turns up to the school do linzer. We've got nothing like that to go to, only ds's table tennis club is putting on a plätzchen-turnier with parents and dc playing doubles.

nutella have you got a sewing machine or are you hand stitching your curtains?
hupa the brace has gone on with no complaints and dd is even eating better than ds did when he got his. Then again ds is male so he's more delicate with anything that hurts even slightly!
santa hope you find a Santa for your photo! You might see one walking around the Weihnachtsmarkt.

Trying dd with sweetcorn fritters for lunch, they're not realyl hard or too crispy and nice soft tinned peaches afterwards. Better go and get my shovel out too.

Ploom · 12/12/2012 10:52

Thats good news about the brace advent - tinned peaches are the biggest hit in our house Smile. Found dh giving the boys all the sugary juice the other day in a glass Blush but obviously they loved it.

nutella - yeah thats the ones. They are delicious.

grinch - think we x posted before. I agree our weather should be fairly similar but I just drove 10km from here before and there was so much less snow - I could see the grass in the fields. We live a bit higher than other villages round here so think thats the reason we get all the snow.

platanos · 12/12/2012 12:40

cheas- hope you made it back down and up the hill. must try those biscuits. the dds baked some from the ready-made spar dough. they were surprisingly tasty (low standards here: not burnt= tasty) and vegan for dh to enjoy too.

ploom what a pain about the snow. mmm...must investigate toasted raisin buns. Smiled at the thought of DIY ultrasound, glad it is getting better...

linzer great idea about the sign. I was going to suggest you get some food colouring and grafitti your initials, but a sign which includes "have a nice day" is much cooler. Hope you have a proper get-together later on.

grinch- how do you get a child to drink yeast? any success? hope he feels better soon.

you are right that there are other risks that are more likely than someone taking them away, and hotels and children where one feels okay about doing it. It would not be something we do now as the children are with us all the time, and the next time we have to worry about them being alone in a hotel room is when they become teenagers and would rather be in their room smoking (joints?), emptying out the mini-bar and running up an astronomical phone bill than sitting at a table with mum and dad. As you can see I am preparing for the worst-case scenario Grin. But agree that self-catering suits us best at the moment.

hupa that Wii sounds like fun. Hope the Plätzchen are okay - would the heat from baking them not kill any bugs? but probably best not to risk it...

santa - hope you find your father christmas, or something similar like a st. nikolaus.

bright sunshine and no snow here...though bitterly cold. We made it to the drs, and got antibiotics. ds's high fever is worrying me but at least it drops with medicine. And he is eating and drinking enough- not his usual amounts but enough. Looks like I shall be home for the rest of the week - could get used to this Grin

itsMYNutella · 12/12/2012 13:40

advent I am using the magic of wonder webbing (iron on hem stuff, think my mum calls it wonder webbing Hmm ) to alter and shorten some IKEA curtains. Problem is I'm a bit slow and in total it's 8 bits of curtain. But I'm nearly done.
Good that DD doesn't seem to be in too much pain with the brace.

Linzer can't wait to see pictures of the sign! Of course I meant to write shovelled by Linzer not swept, sorry honestly not trying to detract from the hard work you're putting in.
We just handed over the "cleaning rota" doo dah at the beginning of the week for path clearing/sweeping duty for outside our building; just in time for the snow

platanos you're right to worry about what kids might get up to when left alone, I could fill my own thread with some tales from my three brothers... And probably some from me as well Hmm .... Always expect the unexpected/ worst :o

It's really snowing here, there were some big blobs coming down earlier. advent if you have been out and shovelled I hope it wasn't in vain. I was going to go for a walk and some fresh air... Now I think I'll just stand on the balcony if the urge for fresh air takes over Xmas Wink

WhatWouldSantaDo · 12/12/2012 14:24

Thanks all for the Santa responses. I have emailed the Frankfurt tourism board and they say there is a Santa who sits at the top of the shopping centre for an hour a day, so hopefully it is what I am after! (I wrote in German using Google translate, so never know if it's done the job well!).

Mm, those little biscuits look fab, cheas. My DS absolutely loves cooking and baking. Our little Elf on the Shelf brought him some baking stuff the other day, DS was thrilled with his mini rolling pin! Xmas Smile

Bit envious of you all with all your snow, we had a light flutter yesterday, for about two minutes, but nothing else since the weekend! Where is my snow!!!

Speaking of children in hotels, we half-watched Home Alone 2 yesterday. Ouch at the bill he ran up! Xmas Smile

Ploom · 12/12/2012 14:50

I have just been out (while its still snowing) and shovelled snow that was about 5 inches deep! I'm sweating now & depressed that its still snowing so I'll have to shovel later for the 3rd timeSad. Will be breaking my own rules & treating myself to some Winelater!

Ploom · 12/12/2012 16:12

And I've just had to go out and shovel again! The Winterdienst had been round the street and the snow that he'd pushed to the side was then blocking the drive Angry. I'm so over winter already after today - roll on spring!

TheUKGrinchImGluhweinkeller · 12/12/2012 16:23

I had to do that yesterday Ploom - snowplough cleared the road and pushed it to the side, including of course blocking all drives. 2 years ago the pavement snow plough that clears only the pavement by the playground, and the cycle paths, cleared the pavement snow into a pile half blocking our drive, and I had to shovel a mountain away to get the car out to fetch DD and DS1 from KiGa - whilst 5 months pregnant. DH rang up to complain and it hasn't happened again, but the road is a different story as they can't really do anything different.

cheaspicks · 12/12/2012 16:43

I'm also over winter now. It has snowed all day without stopping so far, so I walked to the kiga and made dd walk home. I woefully underestimated how long it would take her - about an hour and a half. At least she only complained for the first 20 minutes or so, then she discovered eating snow and stopped every 5 metres to pick some more up. We're now sitting on the sofa, eating biscuits, drinking tea and watching Peppa Pig Grin.

LinzerChristkindlmarkt · 12/12/2012 17:45

I'm definitely over snow shovelling - I don't think my back can take any more! I think this is the first year I haven't been fed up with the snow within a couple of hours, but mainly because I haven't really had to go anywhere yet (just to take the DC to school, which is only a 10 minute walk) and the DC have spent most of the last two afternoons playing in the snow. I hate the piles of snow by the edge of the road too, though; they're a complete pain if you a) have a child in a pushchair, or b) are trying to find a parking space.

I shall of course be posting a pic of my sign on Facebook as soon as I've put the finishing touches to it, Nutella. Wink And maybe my neighbours who are FB friends will finally get the message.

platanos Hope the antibiotics kick in soon. Does spending the rest of the week at home mean you'll have more time for MNing? Grin

I read on the Daily Mail website that there have been lots of cancellations and delays at Heathrow today, so am keeping my fingers crossed that DH's flight won't be affected - he'll be getting back late enough as it is.

outnumberedbymen · 12/12/2012 20:10

Hello! just a quick wave around and hello to everyone before signing off again.

the thought of a signature snow shovellling made me laugh. I'd love to see a picture if you really do something like that linzer!

it hasnt been snowing here for and entire day now, and what's left has really turned into ice now. BItterly cold it was today - when I took ds2 and ds3 to pre-school it was -11! I love being able to to the pre-school run on foot, and in the snow pushing a double pushchair really isnt much fun. so for that reason I was glad that there hasnt been more snow here. I also dont miss the snow shovelling though. ALthough, saying that, yesterday morning it was a nice bit of exercise - as I had gone to the gym all motivated and then realised I had left my gym bottoms at home Sad. it was my only free morning this week too.

anyway, really must go. hope everyone is getting over colds, coughs, tummy bugs and sore feet are getting better! Xmas Smile

tadjennyp · 13/12/2012 05:47

Hello - haven't had chance to catch up properly but it seems like there has been a lot of snow-shovelling going on! We just had a smattering today but it might snow a lot over the weekend. Just wanted to say hello in case the thread drops off my list. Hoping everyone is ok. Dh hasn't even made it back from work yet and it's nearly 10pm. Not very impressed. He says he has enough work to keep him busy 24 hours a day. He's also cycling and it's getting icy now. Right, will finish making that butternut squash soup. Hope you all have a great day!

Ploom · 13/12/2012 08:23

Morning!! Just a quick post - need my halo to be verified Wink. Dh's first day off today after 10 days without a lie in - I got the dc sorted, got myself sorted & went out and shovelled the snow (again!!) while he had a lie in. Not sure whether I deserve a halo or a slap for being such a mug! He's finally got up at 9am - would like to dream that he'd do the same for me but am actually laughing out loud at the thought!

Waves to everyone & hope all the poorly ones feel better today Smile.

LinzerChristkindlmarkt · 13/12/2012 08:26

Morning,

No snow shovelling here today, thank goodness, as there hasn't been any more snow overnight - but I think I've done my fair share for the week, in any case.

Jenny Is your DH regularly not back until late? I wouldn't be at all impressed either. DH didn't arrive home until midnight last night as his flight was delayed for an hour due to the plane having to be de-iced, but at least he normally gets home at around 7 pm when he is actually here (usually just as I'm putting the DC to bed, causing them to liven up again).
I've given up on the cycling since we've had snow, but I saw someone cycling today and the roads are generally fairly clear now so I'll probably get the bike out again next week if we don't have any more snow. It's so much quicker to cycle home from school after the school run than to walk.

outnumbered It was bitterly cold this morning here too (-8°C) and DS was really complaining on the way to school and asking why we couldn't go in the car. I do think the early-morning walk wakes up all up, though. And yes, I'll definitely tell you if I discover my bastel gene (as I've admitted on here before, I seem to be sadly lacking it) and get annoyed enough to make a sign. Grin

Quick poll - which term would you teach a class of 8-9 year olds, Father Christmas or Santa? I always say Father Christmas and have always taught it to the school children up until now, but Santa seems to be becoming more common (it's a word my mother would probably have banned us from using for being too American Hmm) - and it's definitely quicker and easier to write!

LinzerChristkindlmarkt · 13/12/2012 08:29

x posts Ploom - you definitely get the snow shoveller of the day award. Grin Could you have waited until your DH got up and asked him to clear the snow once he was up? That's probably what I would have done!

cheaspicks · 13/12/2012 09:00

Linzer I teach Santa to my 4-6 year olds because it's much easier for them to learn and I bombard them with 15 Christmas terms (so that I have enough for Bingo boards Smile). I also teach gifts instead of presents for the same reason. You could look at it as enriching their wider cultural frame of reference - far more songs referring to Santa than FC that they might hear on the radio/in films etc.

ploom you definitely get a halo. Can I have one too? DH is so pleased that we have no pavements in our road that he seems to think he doesn't have to shovel any snow at all, but I've cleared our drive and steps four times now - don't want the postwoman to slip or our cars to get stuck.

nutella my mum always goes on about wonder webbing as well. I had real problems last year trying to work out what it might be called in German since I didn't know what to google - it's great for appliqué and I wanted to make dd a personalsed bag for her spare clothes at kiga.

I'm feeling desperately lazy today. I worked all last weekend, am working both days this weekend (although Sat will be lots of fun - Kinderweihnachtsoratorium in Weimar and we're all going) and I just want to slob around a bit. I know I'll feel better if I do something constructive, though, but the list is endless - quilt, photo book, photo mosaic, wrapping stocking fillers, tidying up, making mince pies...

Ploom · 13/12/2012 09:02

I could have left it till he got up but wanted us to go out for a couple of hours together & if I'd asked him to shovel snow as well the time would have been gone. He is soooooo slow at getting ready in the morning. Even on a work day it takes him an hour and he has to do nothing with the dc. So today he's going even slower - and of course he had to have his big german breakfast!

I think I'd use Father Christmas if I was teaching dc about British Christmas although in ds1's book from school it says Santa Claus. I interchange them to my dc but think they always use Santa.

Ploom · 13/12/2012 09:05

X posts cheas - think you have every right to be lazy. Is your dsis there to be lazy with or is she being industrious with her dissertation? My boys were nearly going to Weimar this weekend - would have spooked Oma & Opa out if the boys had met someone they know in Weimar!

LinzerChristkindlmarkt · 13/12/2012 09:11

cheas That's exactly what I'm doing! Have just cut up 21 bingo boards (five children will have the same board, but I don't suppose it matters) - I played bingo with the class for the first time last lesson, although used to play it regularly with my smaller groups, and they loved it. (The winners got sweets as a prize - not my idea, I hasten to add - and I was Shock at the size of the sweet tin the teacher had! Only in Austria...)

If I'm feeling in a lazy mood, I'll put the timer on for 15 minutes and force myself to do something constructive and then allow myself to sit down and read/MN for 15 minutes. Only that second 15 minutes often seems to extend into 20 and then 25 minutes...

Ploom Ah yes, I would probably have done the same re the snow shovelling in that case. Still annoying, though!

Thanks both for your input. I'll go for Santa then, which has the added bonus of being understood everywhere - I was talking to some Irish friends about it a while ago and they said they'd never use Father Christmas; I'm not sure they'd even heard of the term, in fact.

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