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Not sure what to do re moving to Shanghai & housing. Please help :)

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ComradeJing · 04/12/2011 01:30

So we're definitely moving to Shanghai which I'm thrilled about because I'm DONE with this polluted dump of a city. Having spent 4 days house hunting and feeling very depressed about the quality of housing we've come down to this:

I found an absolutely perfect house, good garden, good compound with pool, right next to a large park, right next to a foreign super market and wine shop, well within budget (actually it's less than our budget so we can spend the excess of our housing allowance on utilities or cleaner or whatever), everything is ideal.

But

It's on the far side of fuck. It's about 15 minutes west of Hong Qiao airport so, with good traffic, is 30 - 45 minutes from down town and as traffic downtown is so bad it could well be another 30 minutes to get wherever I want to go.

I'm not sure what is out there in terms of meeting other people. I'm sure there must be stuff as it is where the American and British schools are but I'm not sure. I've felt rather isolated where we are in Beijing as it is always a taxi or car ride to get anywhere. I don't want to do that again.

The problem is it seems to be that if we move into town we either need to go into a poor quality house which costs lots but is not nice inside, go into an apartment (which I don't want to do) or DH asks his boss for more money on the housing allowance which we don't want to do as he's asking for a pay increase next year.

Agh, maybe I just haven't looked enough. Maybe there is something perfect waiting for me...

I can't look again until after Christmas as we're going back to the UK. I'm worried about losing out on this house if we don't go for it though...

Sorry, this is really long but I'm turning myself in side out on this. I want to be happy and in the city but I also want to live somewhere lovely. Also planning to be pg next year so being in the city for going out at night less important to being able to meet other mums. Where do I compromise?

It's just DH, DD (11 m) and I.

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ComradeJing · 04/12/2011 01:32

God, sorry, that really is long.

In a nutshell, lovely house in the burbs or poorer house in the city?

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youngermother1 · 04/12/2011 01:50

Which do you choose now? Only you can answer the question as to which is most important

ComradeJing · 04/12/2011 01:56

Right now we live in a great house 15 minutes from downtown so it's almost best of both worlds. I can take a cab in to town easily. I won't have that option in Shanghai.

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ninedragons · 04/12/2011 02:43

I'm afraid that's the deal in SH.

We lived in an apartment in the French Concession, which was lovely BUT nothing to do for kids. Loads of expats live there and we met wonderful people very easily, but none of our friends had children so when DD1 came along it was tough as I was on my own all day.

I know the sort of compounds you mean, and I know other parents really rate them, but I am an inner city woman so just couldn't bring myself to leave the FC. We resolved the problem by moving to Australia, where you can live with kids in the inner city!

It's not impossible that we would move back to SH at some point, and I'd certainly go for the FC again. Apartment living doesn't bother me as much as commuting or being miles away from everything does. Schools are crucial in SH, though - you're probably best picking your school and working back from there.

ninedragons · 04/12/2011 02:46

Is your DH working in Pudong? Crossing the river is a real PITA during rush hour, so you really need to be on the same side of the river as your job.

ninedragons · 04/12/2011 03:01

Two more points:

  1. Beware apartments because there are no restrictions on construction noise. It's no coincidence that my limited Putonghua is much heavier on the swearing than my English Grin. Fighting with your neighbour at 5.30 on a Sunday morning about the drilling into the party wall will do that.
  1. Your DC will learn better Chinese if they live downtown. If you live in an expat compound they may only ever learn enough to speak to the ayi.
4pinkbabies · 06/12/2011 01:21

Depends where your DH is working..If he is in Pudong, then I would go for somewhere nearby, Jin Qiao is the best bet, IMHO. great expat housing, great parks, big supermarket and nice surrounding shops. 15 mins by taxi into the centre of Pudong. Need more details about where your DH will be based. Hong Qiao is so far out, it's like another city. We went there by coach one morning and it took about an hour and a half. There is a metro link out there, though. Pollution wise, I would also go for Pudong rather than Puxi.

4pinkbabies · 06/12/2011 01:27

Sorry, I skim read the whole thing. Jin Qiao is expensive. However, a little further out on the Pudong side gets much cheaper. The metro link is expanding all the time. there are plenty of really nice apartments round the Century Park area. I would keep looking.

ComradeJing · 06/12/2011 01:28

Sorry, rl got in the way of replying.

DH will be based in puxi so pudong absolutely out. He'll probably be based between xin tian di and hong qiao airport. Right now they are next to xin tian di but DH boss wants to move and the CEO lives in hong qiao so it will be somewhere between there I would guess.

Apartment is definitly out. It's either out by the British and American schools in a lovely house or closer in in agrotty house. Very torn.

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4pinkbabies · 06/12/2011 05:09

Well, personally I would go for the lovely house, especially if it is going to be near to DH's work. There is an excellent metro link to Hong Qiao from the city. bringing up kids in a grotty house, especially possible new baby? For me, no way. Hong Qiao is a busy part of the city, where there are great expat schools there is always plenty to do recreation-wise. I don't know a great deal about Hong Qiao, except there are some fab markets. If you are not happy being so far out, I would keep looking. Puxi centre is really not great pollution-wise, though.

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