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Advice about binder

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Newpuppymummy · 22/07/2022 20:06

17 year old says she’s trans. We had this at 13 and it went away. She’s very influenced by people around her and think she’s friends with a lot of non binary people at the moment. She’s also decided she’s autistic.
She was literally dressing very sexy goth style with loads of make up a few weeks ago. Got a hair cut and changed her whole look.
I think she’s exploring her identity and have said no to a binder. Am I wrong? I don’t want her to damage her body

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Newpuppymummy · 22/07/2022 21:17

Anyone?

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partystress · 22/07/2022 21:25

www.transgendertrend.com/social-transition-and-chest-binding/

You have to scroll quite a long way down the page, but a few links here.

Perple · 22/07/2022 21:26

Of course you’re not wrong. The notion of a young woman restricting her body like thst is awful: And can cause damage.

alexdgr8 · 22/07/2022 22:11

well i would say the same, but realistically, at that age it's not your decision is it.
perhaps it might be better to avoid saying outright what you feel and just try to be a listening ear, and hope that she comes to her senses.
people can be, dress, however they like, without mutilating their body.
i think it's partly youngsters feeling invincible; most have no experience of bodily decline, weakness, death and disease.
whatever body they have, it is a blessing to have one that works reasonably well, and gets you around, and to live long enough to consider all these issues more fully.
all the best, to you and her.

Newpuppymummy · 22/07/2022 22:29

apparently not as she’s told me she’s doing it anyway and she will move out if I try to stop her. Oh and she also wants to be called a different name and he instead of her. Here we go again. I feel like we are back 4 years ago.

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Iambecomethequeen · 24/07/2022 10:41

First of all, buy your child a binder. If you don't, they may start binding unsafely, and that's really dangerous. Of course, at 17 they can probably buy a binder online.
It's also not your decision, really, it's not your body. At 17, you have no business controlling their clothes.
"We had this at 13 and it went away." Did it? Or did your lack of support/hostility convince them to go back in the closet? Those are different things.

CrossStichQueen · 24/07/2022 10:58

I would never buy my child something that could damage their health no matter how much they threatened me/attempted to blackmail me.

At she is 17 you have little control over what she wears but you can at least provide her with the information so she can make an informed choice. She needs to understand the potential harm of binders and along with the affirmation stories she has no doubt read on line she needs to read female detransistioners stories too.

Providing the information may be accepted more than mum just telling her.

Iambecomethequeen · 24/07/2022 11:07

CrossStichQueen · 24/07/2022 10:58

I would never buy my child something that could damage their health no matter how much they threatened me/attempted to blackmail me.

At she is 17 you have little control over what she wears but you can at least provide her with the information so she can make an informed choice. She needs to understand the potential harm of binders and along with the affirmation stories she has no doubt read on line she needs to read female detransistioners stories too.

Providing the information may be accepted more than mum just telling her.

Yeah, a physiotherapist should be consulted to make sure there are no underlying conditions that would make binding dangerous.

Also, you don't seem to understand the concept of harm reduction.

Clymene · 24/07/2022 11:30

There's no such thing as safe binding.

Iambecomethequeen · 24/07/2022 11:52

That's like saying there's no such thing as safe sex because contraception is 100% safe.

JazzyBBG · 24/07/2022 12:03

"Decided she's autistic" why?
Is there evidence for this? Can you get her assessed? Sounds like a lot of labelling going on perhaps for the sake of it? Why does she feel the need to do this? As for binding I have no advice I'm afraid but you have my sympathies.

Clymene · 24/07/2022 12:13

Iambecomethequeen · 24/07/2022 11:52

That's like saying there's no such thing as safe sex because contraception is 100% safe.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6298447/

89% experienced negative health impacts.

There is no such thing as safe binding.

CrossStichQueen · 24/07/2022 12:25

Also, you don't seem to understand the concept of harm reduction.

I do and I also understand coercive control.
There is no harm reduction in supporting and promoting the harmful practice of breadt binding.

ihavenocats · 24/07/2022 13:07

Iambecomethequeen · 24/07/2022 10:41

First of all, buy your child a binder. If you don't, they may start binding unsafely, and that's really dangerous. Of course, at 17 they can probably buy a binder online.
It's also not your decision, really, it's not your body. At 17, you have no business controlling their clothes.
"We had this at 13 and it went away." Did it? Or did your lack of support/hostility convince them to go back in the closet? Those are different things.

That's like saying buy your child pure heroin otherwise they are going to take heroin unsafely.

Newpuppymummy · 24/07/2022 16:11

Thete is a lot of labelling gong on you are right. I think she doesn’t know who she is in a more extreme way than average teens and so searches for identities. She reads about something or comes across it in a friend and thinks she has it, we’ve had her thinking she has BPD and Tourette’s before.
I don’t react with horror but don’t engage in encouraging it either as it makes her worse.

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