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Is it cool to be lgbt now a days? 12 year old says her and her friends are bi.

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aligee24 · 28/08/2018 13:15

A few months ago when my daughter was 11 I found lgbt memes on her phone. I also checked her search history and she had been searching what different sexualalities meant. When I asked her about it she told me that she was bi. I was quite shocked, more because of how matter of fact she was about it. She said that her and her two best friends are also bi. I told her that I am happy as long as she is happy but I couldn't help but wonder if it's genuine or whether her and her friends have been talking about it and she has just decided it's cool and wants to join in or something. She seems to be obsessed about everything lgbt and wanted rainbow badges to wear to school. She has just turned 12 this month and has went into high school. I tried to tell her that when she goes into high school that she should let people get to know her for who she is and not by a label (in the hope she could avoid/ postpone any bullying) but she's been at school one week and has been asking for lgbt books in the library and asked her guidance teacher to join the lgbt group infront of her class. I'm torn between supporting her in being 'out and proud' and trying to protect her from bullies by telling her to keep it more private. Especially when I don't know if it's genuine or if she fully understands what she's saying. Once it's out there you can't take it back if you change your mind. She seems to have no understanding of how much grief kids get at school for it, she's completely oblivious.

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StillIRise87 · 08/11/2018 11:21

When I was a teenager it was so cool to be Gay or Bi. We were a bunch of indie kids. From a group of about fifteen kids all professing to be Bi/Gay we eventually ended up with one real Lesbian and one real Gay man. Everyone else just wanted to be Brett from Suede. Also, we had the self harming thing. One kid with real mental health issues and about another five just lightly scratching themselves with nails to get on board.
' that's nice dear' is a great response for a 12 year old. I also think most people fancy the same sex at one point or another. I think sexuality is a spectrum anyway.

sleepyhead · 08/11/2018 11:25

I think as society thankfully becomes less homophobic, many more teens will experiment with same sex relationships - some would end up being gay, some would be bi, most would be hetrosexual.

It's a pretty safe way to experiment - no pregnancy risk!

Gay teens often have hetrosexual relationships before they settle on their preferences, why not the other way round?

SchnitzelVonKrumm · 08/11/2018 11:37

There is nothing homophobic about finding it implausible that a class of 30 12-year-olds, few if any of whom are doing anything more sexual than holding hands or kissing, will all turn out to be gay or bisexual. People are amused by the fashion for adopting these labels, largely divorced from the actual business of sex, not appalled that some children might in fact be gay.

I rather suspect a lot of them currently identify as gay or bi because it's a 'cool' way of ducking out of dealing with boys before they're ready for it. I suspect the same, ditto slightly older girls identifying as asexual without having dipped a toe in the water. It's quite a smart strategy.

allnewandawful · 08/11/2018 11:55

Hi all

my dd has also recently told me that she is pansexual and is dating one of her friends, a girl, who identifies as lesbian. How do you all feel about sleepovers at this age between same sex friends, who are purporting to be in a relationship and attracted (not sexually I'm sure!) to each other.
We have said no for now, but is this the right way to go? All her friends seem to be bi/pan, i'm convinced its a trend...

NotDavidTennant · 08/11/2018 12:12

Being gay a not a “fad” or a “choice.”

No-one is saying that being gay is a fad. What we're saying is it is fashionable for young people at the moment to identify as gay (or more commonly, bi). Not the same thing at all.

SchnitzelVonKrumm · 08/11/2018 12:13

I think no sleepovers with any romantic interest. Hard to let a girlfriend stay over then change the rules for a potential future boyfriend.

SchnitzelVonKrumm · 08/11/2018 12:14

(Or vice versa)

allnewandawful · 08/11/2018 12:17

Thanks Schnitzel, that was my thoughts and the way I tried to explain it to dd, she wasn't happy about it, but understood that she wouldn't be allowed a boyfriend to sleepover.

RiverTam · 08/11/2018 12:22

shredded nothing homophobic about observing that identifying as bi is a 'thing' among the young right now. Identity =/= fact.

Kokeshi123 · 08/11/2018 12:38

Shredded, hate to bust your bubble but the snarkiest and most cynical comments about women or girls claiming to be bisexual invariably come from (actual, bona fide) gay women, in my experience.

My school year was full of girls claiming to be bi. I think that what they meant by this was that they were cool and alternative (but not TOO alternative). I seem to remember one or two of them kissing each other at ghastly school discos (when the boys were watching them). All the ones I kept in touch with showed every sign of just being regular heterosexual women.

Two women from my year group did turn out to be gay. Neither said anything about their sexuality or claimed to be bisexual or lesbian in secondary school--they both "came out" after age 20, which is very common among lesbians. I think girls who actually are lesbian or bisexual actually tend not rush to volunteer the information at a very young age, because they are probably trying to sort out their feelings in their own heads before they go around announcing stuff.

SerendipityFelix · 08/11/2018 12:59

I’m intrigued that it sounds like there seems to be a trend for pre-teens to identify as bisexual - I was told recently that my own (adult, long-standing, well practiced!) bisexuality was transphobic. I couldn’t be bothered to debate with that person - they seemed very silly to me - but I’m relieved that bisexuality is seemingly still acceptable to others in the younger generations.

ProfYaffle · 08/11/2018 13:11

YY Schnitzel - my dd1 is 14 and identifies as asexual and I suspect that's why.

WitchyMcWitchface · 08/11/2018 13:16

I would think it might last until their first REAL crush. I had obsessive crushes on pop stars, or older boys at school or my first boyfriend (though that didn't last long) at around that age, or maybe a bit older. Once she has those desperate feelings for whatever sex or both she will have a good idea what she is I would think.

Fairenuff · 08/11/2018 15:08

Bisexual, asexual, pansexual - anything but heterosexual.

These days it's a surprise when a young teen comes out as straight.

SleepingStandingUp · 08/11/2018 15:16

Why is saying you're bi at 12 a life altering decision?

Either she will be or she won't be and they'll just laugh and tease each other as they older "oh God remember when we thought we were bi until we realised we didn't know any girls we wanted to kiss? Got drunk at Jjema-Mai's 15 and snogged and is was gross?

And LOTS of 11/12 yo know who they want to kiss, even if it's just the kid from the boy band or the girl in that show, so I wouldn't rule out lack of awareness of sexuality. Sexuality doesn't have to mean SEX

Petalflowers · 08/11/2018 15:20

Teenagers are more gender fluid nowadays, and being gay or bi doesn’t have the stigma it had in the past.

RiverTam · 08/11/2018 15:30

gender fluid is nothing to do with sexuality, and is an absolute nonsense anyway.

yawning801 · 08/11/2018 16:36

*Bisexual, asexual, pansexual - anything but heterosexual.

These days it's a surprise when a young teen comes out as straight.*

And this is a problem because...?

yawning801 · 08/11/2018 16:36

*Bisexual, asexual, pansexual - anything but heterosexual.

These days it's a surprise when a young teen comes out as straight.*

And this is a problem because...?

WitchyMcWitchface · 08/11/2018 22:53

Don't think anyone said it was a problem.

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