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Once You Reported Someone

30 replies

MyPenniesWorth · 09/06/2010 01:53

What happens?

Our neighbour had an extension built, a dinning room and downstairs toilet, she showed it to me proudly, I was jealous.

Recently I needed some work done on my house, as my neighbours extension was so well done I thought I ring the builder and get a quote.

The owner of the building company came over and we started chatting, oh I told him you did a great job on the dinning room at no 12.

Imagine my surprise when I was told oh it is not a dinning room it is disabled facilities and a disability grant paid for it.

I was shocked as our neighbour has no problems getting round, she does the garden, works, goes shopping and getting drunk most Friday nights

Despite feeling guilty I felt I should report her, so I did, two months ago now.

I find myself looking over with a unclear concious and wondering when or if anything will happen. So anyone know how these things proceed

Hope it is the right forum to ask this

OP posts:
FlookCrow · 10/06/2010 01:16

You probably won't be notified due to "confidentiality". Maybe live and let live - she could very well have a disability that allows her to live a relatively normal life.

booyhoo · 10/06/2010 01:28

perhaps her disability isn't something you can see.

my cousin suffered from ulcerative colitis and before she had her colostomy bag on she needed to use the toilet quite urgently at times. perhaps this lady has something similar.

SacharissaCripslock · 10/06/2010 01:28

Seriously? Because she has a life (the shock, goes out and gets drunk!!) you have decided this means she has no disablity. Do you know, doctors around the world could use your talents - you can diagnose someone just by looking! Wow.

I would just leave it. If she is lying she will get caught out, you've reported her so no doubt her case will be looked into. I doubt you'll hear back about it though.

Your reasons for reporting her are rather though.

MyPenniesWorth · 10/06/2010 14:07

That is why the council would build her a dinning room how stupid of me, there must be a million medical ailments that require a dinning room.

The council spent £24,000 on that building - it is her house she got a grant - why would they do if someone has a disability that allows them to live a relatively normal life?

One of my relatives lost both his legs and while the council provided him with ramps and a stair lift they refused to build a downstairs toilet or a replace the current bath with a sit down shower. They provided a commode

You need to be seriously disabled before you can get grants for building alterations and that is virtually no life

I am asking how the process runs out of curious. Please no stupid comments like the ones above.

PS: I will make myself clearer, the disabled facilities are supposed to be a toilet and bedroom as the occupier is not able to use the stairs or a stair lift

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booyhoo · 10/06/2010 15:12

"PS: I will make myself clearer, the disabled facilities are supposed to be a toilet and bedroom as the occupier is not able to use the stairs or a stair lift"

is this what the builder told you or have you been told this by the person that authorised the grant?

tbvh it is absolutely none of your business what her disability is. she obviously doesn't feel able to tell you about it. (cant understand why ) you have reported her, let the people who actually need to know her business do their job. it is unlikely you will find anything out as it is a matter of confidentiality and i doubt the neighbour will be telling you anything when she knows who reported her. (wont be too hard to work out since you used her builder)

MyPenniesWorth · 10/06/2010 16:12

The builder told me!

But then there is this thing called the internet. You go online, go to your local authority web site and you can look up the last several years of planning applications. You can look at the plans and specifications of granted and failed applications.

My neighbours planning applications says DFG - bedroom and shower room.

DFG stands for disabled grant facility

You can't think why I reported her booyhoo, crime, fraud mean anything to you or are you one of these people who thinks it is OK to commit crime?

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booyhoo · 10/06/2010 16:22

the 'cant understand why' was for your neighbour not feeling able to tell you about her disability. it was sarcasm. i do not think it is ok to commit crime.

PatriciaHolm · 11/06/2010 18:06

Well, maybe the "dinning" room is for some specific medical use, such as allowing her to make loud screaming noises unheard by her nosy neighbours?

FlookCrow · 11/06/2010 21:29

Stupid comments? :D

She wouldn't have been given the grant if it wasn't clarified beyond reasonable doubt that she was disabled. Even to get a disabled badge, you have to go to the council office and prove just how disabled you are.

I suggest you get on with your own life.

FlookCrow · 11/06/2010 21:29

And your original post.. you wanted to know what will happen. I answered. You won't know - it's not your business to know.

MyPenniesWorth · 12/06/2010 00:56

I am getting sick of this

Firstly I asked how does the investigation get carried out not what the outcome is

Secondly I believe my neighbour has committed fraud, it my duty to report this, in the same way as it would be if my neighbour was involved in robbery or muggings or any other serious crime

It is not like using a blue badge when your not entitled or taking a Mars bar from Asda, it is thousands of pounds

FlookCrow your so naive, people commit disability fraud all the time, do a search on line you find stories of people going to hospital in wheelchairs and then getting up to referee football matches or work as roofers for example

I might be nosy but I think people who condone criminals they are just scum

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KickArseQueen · 12/06/2010 01:21

Mypenniesworth,

Good for you. My ex next door neighbour pretended to be unable to stand in order to get her house modified the way she wanted, she got a car, an extension and used to call on me in her " emergencies" to pick her up off the floor, then one day I caught her out. Totally by accident. I walked through the gate, the curtains were open and there she was walking round the room. I watched her for a good few minutes before she noticed me, and promptly fell to the floor.

People do, do this, she had all sorts of tests carried out to try to convince people she was ill. inc a lumbar puncture.

Once she realised we knew she was a fraud she never spoke to us again. We would frequently see her wandering round the garden but out side the front door she couldn't weight bear at all.

I wish I had reported her, but tbh I felt stupid that she had strung me a line and I'd been taken in for so long.

I don't know the answer to your question, but I do believe you may be right.

DancingHippoOnAcid · 12/06/2010 12:20

Crikey, KAQ, this woman literally pretended to everyone including her neighbours that she could not walk and only walks in her house or garden?

That is pretty extreme behaviour just to con a few grand out of LA. She sounds nuts!

KickArseQueen · 12/06/2010 14:01

Completely and utterly nuts, and believe me it totted up to waaay more than a few grand. Even her own mother had no idea and would struggle to push her to the shops in the wheelchair. Her Mother was in her 70's. I think in hindsight she was mentally ill. Possibly Munchausens? no Idea. Glad I don't have to deal with the problem any more.

The neighbours on the otherside of her were also aware of the truth because they overlooked her too.

DancingHippoOnAcid · 12/06/2010 15:13

She even conned her own MOTHER???

That is SERIOUSLY insane!

I think you are right, that goes beyond the bog standard conning the council or benefits, most people doing this aren't prepared to spend their whole lives pretending they can't walk even to their own family!

KickArseQueen · 12/06/2010 21:55

I agree, but she did. Her mother lived a reasonable distance away so she would visit 1 weekend in 4. Scary how some people live their lives. Anyway. OP, hopefully she and her husband haven't moved in next door to you! Good Luck!

FlookCrow · 14/06/2010 18:29

Hahah, yes, if you read the Daily Mail, there's loads of those sorts of examples ;)

I hope you get the answer you want.

KickArseQueen · 15/06/2010 00:28

Flook I do hope you are not infering that my post is as believable as something you could read in the Daily Mail???

DancingHippoOnAcid · 15/06/2010 00:34

KAQ - I couldn't even understand Flook's post so I ignored it

KickArseQueen · 15/06/2010 00:46

I didn't ignore flookcrow when her nightlight was broken, so I don't expect her to ignore my post. When she turns up maybe she can explain her last post to me to....

DancingHippoOnAcid · 15/06/2010 01:03

OK I'll leave you both to it

KickArseQueen · 15/06/2010 01:12

No didn't mean it like that at all, stick around. I don't know flook at all but we have bumped threads and I responded to her when she was a bit stressed so I guess I'm kind of suggesting that she takes me at face value, I've had this name long enough to prove that I don't troll and I don't make crap up, sooo....

I'd like an explanation of her last ambiguous post, I guess I feel like I deserve one........

cestlavielife · 15/06/2010 13:12

so the builder was quite happy to be paid to build something that wasnt in the planning spec?

report him too for collusion!

you dont know her circumstance ..yes she may be conning... you done your bit in reporting your concerns - now let it go...

DancingHippoOnAcid · 15/06/2010 17:08

KAQ - no, I hadn't taken offence, I just needed my bed!

Still a bit confused about what you two were on about, but I am sure you understood each other!

FlookCrow · 15/06/2010 21:52

KAQ, I was referring to MyPenniesWorth's post, not yours.