Eviction of DDS ex

[Ramblingnamechanger]

Has anyone , as owner of a house occupied by daughter, formally evicted ex boyfriend through the English courts system He has no legal status in the house, apart from permission to live there initially. Does not pay rent. I have served notice to quit, but he is not moving.

Do you even need to go through a legal process to do this. He is there as a guest. He has no legal rights. Just wait until he goes out, change the locks and remove his stuff. Tell him where he can collect it.

If all else fails move back in yourself for a few days!

I would strongly recommend legal advice as you could inadvertently leave yourself open to all sorts of consequences if you get it wrong.

One obvious question is what was the arrangement under which your daughter occupied the property, did she pay rent or was it 'grace and favour'

He might have some sort of implied tenancy if there is no lodger agreement. It’s going to be more difficult to evict him under the renters rights act. I’d consult with a tenancy specialist solicitor.

chuck out his stuff. Change the locks. Job done. If you are breaking any laws let him sue you. What's the alternative? Just let him live there?

No legal advice but I’d consider moving myself or several very annoying friends in for a week so, make a royal nuisance of yourselves and he’ll evict himself…

Rugby Players?

Oh yes. An excellent suggestion

Seriously? Her dad, brothers, cousins whoever, go and drag the fucker out or if you really have absolutely noone capable of standing up to him you wait till he goes out, change the locks and chuck his stuff in the street.

And of course hes not going to move out after receiving a 'notice to quit' . That sort of person doesnt care about a piece of paper. Hes happy staying where he is for free at your daughter's expense. You could get tied up in a court system for years. You need to be proactive

What does your daughter say about this OP? Is he abusive?

Ring Shelter or CAB for advice.

ChatGPT says just give written notice of 7-14days then change the locked whilst he’s out.

Did you put a date on your letter?

Her dad, brothers, cousins whoever, go and drag the fucker out

Legally you can use reasonable force to remove someone who is trespassing from your property, but it's a minefield.

Dragging a trespasser who refuses to leave off your property may be considered a reasonable use of force.

However using force can become illegal very quickly. If the force is excessive, for example a mob of people dragging someone out by their ankles, someone getting dragged down stairs, or across concrete/gravel, if the use of force continues when they are outside the property, if weapons are involved or if they sustain a significant injury, then it's a criminal matter.

If the person is not trespassing (by it's legal definition) and not posing a threat, using force against them would be considered an unprovoked assault.

If the person has any legal right to be in the property, using force to remove them could also be considered an unlawful eviction.

If the little toerag is refusing to leave as some form of control/abuse, he'd likely love nothing more than to drag the family through the legal system for assault or similar, and/or compensation.

Legalities aside, as gratifying as a bit of 'mob justice' sounds, real life is rarely as simple as 'sending the boys round'.

There's always the potential for things to get out of hand and someone to get seriously hurt, or worse.

If he had any reason to be fearful of OP's family, he wouldn't have refused their request to leave in the first place. So even if they did manage to physically force him out and change the locks, what's to stop him coming back with a bruised ego and booting the door off? Or worse?

If he pays zero rent and not on the tenancy then the daughter who lives there can kick him out. If he refuses to leave she can contact the police.

You say you have evicted him through the courts. If you have a possession order, your next step is to get the County Court bailiff to evict him.

It really is as simple as changing the locks and putting his stuff in bags outside. He has no legal status, does not pay rent, basically he is just an unwanted guest (or pest) who was allowed to visit on a temporary basis. He has absolutely no rights whatsoever.

I think this is a misinterpretation of OP’s question. My reading was that OP has not evicted him through the courts. I think OP is asking whether anyone else has gone down the formal eviction route.

yes, controlling and coercive man. Daughter thinks he will change. Says he is dangerous. Originally daughter paid rent but not for 12 years. My partner and I bought the house for her to have a place to live safely. She has mental health issues, most likely due to him, conspiracy stuff etc. I live abroad so can’t do much myself. She is aware she can get an occupation order etc herself but after a few days of rest with us she went back and he persuaded her to let him stay. I feel I have to take action, but know she should really be looking for other support . She is very isolated and vulnerable, police aware. she has useful phone numbers but unlikely to use them.
while the prospect of kicking him out personally is tempting as two old women, unlikely to be successful.

So you want him out, but DD to carry on living there, and DD wants him to stay, and you don't even live in the same country?

There's just no way you can do this. You can change the locks and move his stuff out but she'll just give him the new key and move his stuff back in.

I think you and or other family members need to go and physically stay at the flat and have locks changed while he’s out, if your daughter consents. You might want to report her to social services if she is that vulnerable

I assume your daughter lives in a house owned by you and the BF is there as a "guest" at her invitation. Is he there with your daughter's consent? Or does she want him gone. This is not clear.

So they both pay no rent? I think sadly the best thing you could do is evict them both. If she no longer is a free house, she may be less interesting to him.

Thanks for all the comments. I think timing will be crucial. Of course I can go back and move in when I have a possession order. There is not anywhere for me to sleep as he has occupied the whole house, but will do it if necessary. Actually DD has said she wants him to leave for several months, and has said repeatedly to me the same. When she goes back, she is under his thumb. I know away from him she can see the problems, and I think is wanting us to take action as she doesn’t seem able to ( understandably) No other family or friends available for visits though luckily she has a couple of beds offered by our friends in an emergency. Yes SS referral is necessary and another report to the police.

Yes we have considered evicting them both, but the whole point of the house was to protect her from becoming homeless. Last ditch solution I guess.

Surely some bailiffs have seen this situation before and can assist if you pay them?