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Child Arrangements Varitions - Mobile Phone

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FeelLikeGivingUpButCant · 09/02/2026 17:40

We've had a child arranges order in place since 2020. It stipulates direct unsupervised contact for my 8yr old son with his father EOW, half the holidays and one tea visit per week in term time. There is no indirect contact (phone, email) detailed at all.

My son and I have experienced post separation abuse in varying degrees since 2020. We are currently on our second child in need plan due to disclosures from my son of emotional abuse whilst in the care of his dad resulting in challenging behaviour.

Dad is coercive and controlling. He is currently trying to remove our son from his SEMH school as he believes our son has no SEN.

Our son was previously out of school for 18 months after exclusion from mainstream eduction, he is 8 years old. I went to tribunal for this placement and he's doing brilliantly.

Dad has supplied our sons specialist school with a mobile phone which he insisted must remain in the care of the school. He wants our son to check this phone each day, reply to messages and take video calls. School initially said yes, but only on arrival and departure. I was not informed by dad or school, I heard about it from our son.

I feel very strongly this is not in our son's interest and is an attempt to circumvent our order. In an attempt to provide a safer solution, I offered his dad weekly calls via the parenting app we are ordered to use, prearranged by us and recorded. I asked for the same weekly call for myself and our son during the holidays. Dad declined. I've raised all this with school and was told they were seeking legal advice and the phone would remain unused.

Our social worker had expressed to school during our child in need meetings that she feel this phone arrangement at school isn't in our sons best ininterest, school should remain neutral, I agree.

School are still holding the phone. At least twice now our son has asked for the phone, been given it, then texted and video called his dad. School said the first instance of this was a mistake, I'm still awaiting a reply over what has happened today.

I am worried dad will use this phone to destabilise our sons school placement and he's already used it to asked our son to check on my daily activities.

Can anyone confirm that this is a change to our current child arrangements ordered contact?

We have a clause that says varitions can be agreed in writing by both parents, I believe this is a variation, I do not agree, I've offered a compromise, therefore I'd assume my ex would need to seek variation in court to set out phone contact. Am I right?

How far shall I push this with school? It's an Independent Specialist and they've been fantastic with our son so far. I'm wary of pushing this issue as know they could terminate the placement if they get fed up with the aggravation from both parents.

It's long, so thank you, I can't afford to go back to my solicitor currently so any advice is gratefully received.

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Soontobe60 · 09/02/2026 17:49

The school is totally in the wrong allowing this to happen. I would put in an official complaint to the following their complaints procedure - particularly as the SW has told them it is not in his best interest. The phone should be returned to the father and if he insists on it, tell him to take you back to court.

ShawnaMacallister · 09/02/2026 17:59

School need to return the phone to the father. They are facilitating a breach of the order by allowing this. It's crazy of them. Please put it in writing that your son must not be given the phone. What they choose to do with it is up to them but they don't give it to your son!

FeelLikeGivingUpButCant · 09/02/2026 19:08

Thanks both.

@Soontobe60 I've written to my ex on our app saying I believe this is a breach and pecan take me to court for a variation to include this contact as I don't agree. He just says the order doesn't say anything about phones, therefore he do what he likes. It's my understanding that omission doesn't give permission as these orders can't detail every possibility...

@ShawnaMacallister I have written to the Head twice and met via zoom with him expressing I feel this is a breach of our order and outline why I think it is not in our son's best interests. This has also been repeated in our last CIN meeting with my social worker and the school Safe Guarding Lead. He assured me two weeks ago the phone was now out of circulation. It was a receptionist that gave it out today so it's clearly still available. It's made more difficult that because it's a SEMH school and most children kids travel by taxi they have devices, although they should be handed in as they enter school.

I will chase up school again tomorrow and try to call our social worker. I'm awaiting funds to return to court in regards to the post separation abuse but it's taking some time sadly.

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liveforsummer · 09/02/2026 19:21

This is terrible of the school. I’d escalate!

prh47bridge · 09/02/2026 19:29

It is not a breach of the order unless the order specifically states that there must not be any indirect contact. If the order doesn't say anything about indirect contact, it is allowed. However, if the social worker says this contact is not in your son's best interests the school should stop facilitating it.

FeelLikeGivingUpButCant · 09/02/2026 21:58

@prh47bridge thanks, it's so frustrating, I'd hoped the order was sufficient.
My son has been up till 20 mins ago upset because the message he read this morning mentioned a holiday trip at half term, I can't tell him where he's going, he's worried about it. He needs structure and routine and will ruminate for hours if he doesn't know exact details... Dad has form for taking him on inappropriate trips. He'll stress all week now.

I will try and contact our SW tomorrow, she was planning on talking to the Head.

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WhamBamThankU · 10/02/2026 12:04

School should be neutral and I’d be furious they went along with the phone idea!

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