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ExH has cut me off from DC

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DCCutOffFromMe · 07/07/2025 16:29

Situation: Have 1 DC with now ExH, we split when DC was a toddler (DC is now 11, school year 6). Split due to ExH violence, control and abuse which was proven in criminal court but not in family court. There was court order giving me residency until DC was 8, when ExH took me back to court and was awarded 50/50, despite DC not wanting it, and ExH doing nothing bar have DC overnight.

DC is in receipt of Disability Living Allowance for speech and communication issues, sensory issues, dyslexia, dyspraxia and a mobility issue. I receive the DLA and Carers Allowance but am court mandated to share DLA, CA and Child Benefit with ExH – what that means in reality is I have all the restrictions, but only half of the money to make up for those restrictions. ExH insists DC does not need DLA, doesn’t have a disability and has threatened the school if they do not remove the support plan they have in place. DC hates going to dads, and is counting down the days until they’re 13 and able to say no to going.

50/50 is in a week on, week off pattern, hand over is on a Friday but I do see DC most days due to appointments, and therapies they have. I also pay for all equipment related to their disability, all school uniform, all trips, all activities (DC does 2 out of school activities that help with both their mobility and their speech) and all costs bar clothes and food for ExHs house – anything that goes to ExHs house related to DC from mine ends up in the bin so DC has stopped taking things including medications.

Last week DC got suspended from school for the 4th time this school year. It was justified so I am not arguing about that, as were all the previous times. All suspensions have happened during ExHs weeks with DC, and school have said DCs behaviour during my weeks with them is a lot calmer, they also have all the relevant equipment, PE kit and even money for extras which they do not get with ExH, DC has forgotten PE kit in every week ExH has had DC this year.

Last weeks suspension because it was ExHs week to have DC meant DC was taken back to his house. And I haven’t seen DC since. ExH already doesn’t let me speak to DC when they’re with ExH (despite DC wanting to) and is now saying I am the reason DC keeps getting suspended and I need to transfer the DLA and CA to him because DC lives with him now. He will let me have DC once per month with no overnights if I transfer everything over. He wants me to sign transfer forms to change DCs school for September to one near him (DC is currently at a Middle School but he’s asked for them to transfer to a high school near him).

I have spoken to my solicitor this morning, and we’re getting the ball rolling but it could be a few months for even an urgent court hearing. She has advised me to keep the DLA, CA and Child Benefit in my name but continue to share it as the current order recommends. She’s also advised me to carry on making plans for DC for my weeks with them even though they may not be there because it looks better to court that I was still planning for DC to be with me.

I am panicking, I have a holiday booked with DC for the 2nd week of the summer holidays and it looks like DC might miss it thanks to their dad. They also had a birthday party 2 weeks ago during my week that their dad came to and he made a scene there in front of DCs friends parents (he told DC off loudly for something really minor, then took DC home from the party (on my week) early because of their behaviour – it really was fine, other children where behaving similarly and their parents where dealing with it the same way I was, it did not need DC leaving early).

What are the chances of getting DC home even for 50% of the time again? My solicitor hasn't said what she thinks will happen, but she has told me not to sign any paperwork for DC and make sure the local authority and all other authorities nearby (if relevant) have a copy of the current CAO so that they're aware it's a 50/50 split and therefore I have a say.

OP posts:
LivelyCat · 13/07/2025 22:01

BabyCatFace · 13/07/2025 19:27

Basically, because it's quite likely that something has befallen the elderly person, given that elderly people often have accidents or illnesses and if living alone would possibly not be able to seek help. An elderly person who stops being seen in the area warrants a welfare check because it's likely they need help.
A child in the care of their father who has PR and where there is a court order in place stating that the father is safe to care for him is not likely in need of help. There is no reason to think this man has caused his child any harm. Parents don't usually cause their children harm; in the absence of a reason to do so, police won't just check on children in their parents' care just in case they decided to act completely out of character and start harming their kids.

Again, this man is an awful shit. He's a total arsehole. But you're allowed to be an arsehole, even to your kids, without authorities getting involved.

Thank you for the explanation, I do see what you’re saying.

Testerical · 13/07/2025 22:05

BabyCatFace · 12/07/2025 17:06

I'm sorry you keep getting the same responses OP - threads like this always go the same way unfortunately. I appreciate that most people aren't versed in family law nor the thresholds for social services and police involvement but it's frankly bizarre to be on here telling you that your solicitor is wrong.

For all the people clamouring for the police to be knocking at this man's door for the crime of keeping his child off school and being an arsehole to the OP - please think about what police powers you are calling for. When you call for police to have extraordinary powers to intervene in private parenting decisions you don't get to decide which ones qualify. If police can demand to see a child who has been pulled out of school but with no additional evidence of harm, on the basis that their parent might be abusing them and nobody can prove they aren't, you're calling for police to have powers to do that you you and abusive ex partners to have the right to call police on you for the same spurious reasons.

I know people like to believe that there are powers and authorities who can intervene if their child's co-parent starts acting like a dick but we have article 8 which is the right to private family life and nobody is going to intervene unless a criminal act is taking place (or you have evidence to suggest it might be). This can include criminal neglect of course but removing a child from school (or not sending them) isn't and never has been criminal neglect in and of itself. If you have kids with a total dickhead you're pretty much on your own. Even family court judgements can be and often are disregarded with minimal consequences (as per what is happening to the OP right now). Unless the co-parent is a criminal nobody is going to intervene for you.

Edited

This is true, BUT failing to ensure regular school attendance where a child is on a school roll actually can be an offence, punishable by a fine in lieu of prosecution, or actual prosecution.

And local authorities have powers to pursue that. They can’t ensure the child is returned, but they can make things very difficult for a parent refusing to send their child to school, if they are so minded.

HollyDollyDolally · 13/07/2025 22:07

Having been in a similar situation to you in the past, please (and I can't stress this enough) proceed with caution.

My solicitor advised all of what you have been advised including how the PR would look and I sat back and followed the 'correct' steps thinking it looked better for me and lost everything. By the time the emergency hearing finally came around, he'd absolutely brainwashed DC and I left court with letterbox contact until DC decided otherwise. I always believed the system would see through lies but it doesn't. Luckily, DC reached out in secret and we sorted things from there but it was absolute hell and felt like it would never end, the lies they were told still have a lasting impact.

If it ever happened to me again, I'd be breaking the door down and taking my child. Remember, it being a civil matter to police works both ways!

lemoncake29 · 13/07/2025 22:11

It sounds like you are doing things by the book op and that’s admirable and probably sensible. In one way. But your dc doesn’t want to be with their dad. He is clearly a controlling, abusive wanker. You know this, regardless of what the courts have decided. Who knows what the emotional fallout of this is going to be for your dc. I honestly don’t know what the answer is here but I just hope that by the time this has been dealt with ‘officially’ there won’t be any lasting damage on your dc. I wouldn’t be able to keep away I don’t think, and I recognise that might not be the ‘best’ thing to do from a courts perspective but I don’t think I’d be able to stop myself banging the door down.

BabyCatFace · 14/07/2025 06:43

Testerical · 13/07/2025 22:05

This is true, BUT failing to ensure regular school attendance where a child is on a school roll actually can be an offence, punishable by a fine in lieu of prosecution, or actual prosecution.

And local authorities have powers to pursue that. They can’t ensure the child is returned, but they can make things very difficult for a parent refusing to send their child to school, if they are so minded.

Yes they can, but it's a slow process. OP will be in court before the education authority get anywhere near court to enforce this.

DCCutOffFromMe · 11/09/2025 17:35

Hi everyone thought I'd update to say we've had the initial hearing.

ExH has made loads of accusations about me so I'm not allowed to take DC back to my home while they're investigated, but they have said I can see DC outside my home 4 times a week, a family member of mine is supporting me with this so I'm not stuck outside the house in the rain.

Next hearing is in January. So this is my life for the next few months but at least I'm allowed to see DC.

ExH is now apparently home school DC as I refused to sign the transfer forms but court have ordered him to return them to school, which he's refusing to do right now.

My solicitor has told me to comply with contact as it is at the moment and even if ExH returns DC to school not to take them out early or back to my home.

OP posts:
zaxxon · 11/09/2025 18:13

Thanks for the update. I'm glad you're allowed to see your DC, it must be hugely reassuring for you both. Good luck as it all goes forward.

MissyB1 · 11/09/2025 19:20

so pleased you are able to see your dc. Fingers crossed things go your way at next hearing.

Toadstoollover · 11/09/2025 19:29

Fuck me, I am so sorry that you and dc are going through this.
what an absolute wanker.
sending love.

Harassedevictee · 12/09/2025 05:09

Thanks for the update.

You are doing the right thing following the court instructions. I know it’s hard but hopefully your ex will show the court just how unreasonable he is being.

Chicaontour · 12/09/2025 07:23

I am no legal expert but i dont rate the advice your solicitor has given you

BabyCatFace · 12/09/2025 08:31

Chicaontour · 12/09/2025 07:23

I am no legal expert but i dont rate the advice your solicitor has given you

Why?
The solicitor knows far more about the process and situation than you do

Chicaontour · 12/09/2025 08:57

BabyCatFace · 12/09/2025 08:31

Why?
The solicitor knows far more about the process and situation than you do

Absolutely thats why i acknowledged that I am no legal expert. In terms of my rationale:

  1. the OPs son has a medical condition that is being neglected by his father, this is medical neglect.
  2. The OPs son has behavioural issues in school only during the fathers time.
  3. The OP has suffered abuse, which while didn't meet the required threshold, exists and is recorded.
  4. The OP has evidence that her ex told her he would only grant access if she signed over the sons benefits to him. As a parent if you felt your child was in danger, money wouldnt be a factor in access.

I believe that you both and the Legal rep are looking at each of this incidents in a silo however when considering together, it paints a larger overwhelming picture of abuse and neglect, all of which is detrimental to the OPs son and herself.

Think about it, the OP is only allowed supervised access while a malicious claim is being investigated but she is being told that her son should stick with his dad who has a criminal record and guilty ( in the ops mind) of all of the above.

DCCutOffFromMe · 12/09/2025 13:48

Chicaontour · 12/09/2025 08:57

Absolutely thats why i acknowledged that I am no legal expert. In terms of my rationale:

  1. the OPs son has a medical condition that is being neglected by his father, this is medical neglect.
  2. The OPs son has behavioural issues in school only during the fathers time.
  3. The OP has suffered abuse, which while didn't meet the required threshold, exists and is recorded.
  4. The OP has evidence that her ex told her he would only grant access if she signed over the sons benefits to him. As a parent if you felt your child was in danger, money wouldnt be a factor in access.

I believe that you both and the Legal rep are looking at each of this incidents in a silo however when considering together, it paints a larger overwhelming picture of abuse and neglect, all of which is detrimental to the OPs son and herself.

Think about it, the OP is only allowed supervised access while a malicious claim is being investigated but she is being told that her son should stick with his dad who has a criminal record and guilty ( in the ops mind) of all of the above.

It's the process, the court don't believe his accusations but they have to be investigated and seen as malicious.

I'd rather they be overly cautious with me when its unnecessary than let a child who may be in danger go to a parent who could harm them.

Also remember the family court do not acknowledge that there was DV and abuse, it doesn't matter how many incidences we present to the court because they do not recognise that narrative then me/my solicitor pushing it could backfire.

OP posts:
Londongirl8922 · 13/09/2025 13:49

I’m sure you could get a prohibition steps order in place and the fact he isn’t sending DC to school or even getting in contact with you, you can get police involved for a welfare check he’s your child ..I would be going out my kind with worry so I’m so sorry your in the position 🥺

DCCutOffFromMe · 13/09/2025 16:39

Londongirl8922 · 13/09/2025 13:49

I’m sure you could get a prohibition steps order in place and the fact he isn’t sending DC to school or even getting in contact with you, you can get police involved for a welfare check he’s your child ..I would be going out my kind with worry so I’m so sorry your in the position 🥺

Again it's already in court, the court have decided to go through child arrangements not prohibited steps.

DC is happy to see me when I see them. Spent 6 hours with them today and it was lovely.

OP posts:
Londongirl8922 · 13/09/2025 16:42

immsure you can still reach out to the court to put a stop to him cutting you as he’s breaking the child arrangement order that is legally binding

DCCutOffFromMe · 13/09/2025 16:46

Londongirl8922 · 13/09/2025 16:42

immsure you can still reach out to the court to put a stop to him cutting you as he’s breaking the child arrangement order that is legally binding

They are investigating his accusations of me and have suspended the previous 50/50 child arrangements order, so it's no longer legally binding.

We have already been to court recently, the initial hearing I'd not seen DC since I posted this thread in July. So now we're on contact outside my home thats an improvement.

It's going well to, DC is still adament they want to come back to me. My solicitor says follow the interim order as it has been decided and only cancel seeing DC if I absolutely have to.

OP posts:
londongirl12 · 13/09/2025 16:58

I have no knowledge of this topic, but it’s frightening to me that your ex can get away with this!!!! It’s absolutely shocking. I hope everything works out for you Op.

Ilovethewild · 13/09/2025 19:24

Op, I just wanted to say, well done for holding your own in such a traumatic time.

you are following the legal advice and I’m sure ur solicitor has given you possible outcomes. Esp if judge finds ex in the wrong.

lovely that you and lo are doing well together and they are able to voice what they want too

💪🏼💐

hhtddbkoygv · 13/09/2025 19:48

Christ.

I'm so sorry. I just cannot believe this happens. It does, I read it on here every so often but how?

I can't imagine the pain you've been going through and are still going through.

WhamBamThankU · 14/09/2025 14:46

I’m so sorry you’re going through this. My ex took my daughter three years ago and I haven’t spoken to or seen her since.

RightOnTheEdge · 14/09/2025 15:02

Oh OP it's absolutely terrible that he's allowed to behave like this.
It's blown my mind that the family court dont recognise the abuse convictions.
I really hope everything goes well for you and they see through his lies.

DCCutOffFromMe · 16/12/2025 12:20

Thought I'd update again, ExH has cut me off from DC again now that cafcass have stopped all their investigations and are writing the report for court.

My solicitor suspected this would happen.

DC has spent the last month telling me they don't want to go to a new school and they'd like to go back to their old Middle School - DC hasn't been to school since July as ExH is insisting that they go to one near him.

Cafcass have only met DC with me, and I allowed them to interview DC with a family member of mine present - ExH has banned Cafcass from his home

OP posts:
blankcanvas3 · 16/12/2025 12:43

God this is awful. I don’t have any advice but I’m so sorry you’re going through this. I hope DC is able to see through him.

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