Road signage and scammy PCNs - should private roads say 'London borough of X'

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Good morning to you!

I am fighting a PCN on private land. This road was a normal public road and still looks like it (nothing has changed). About half way down the road there is a sign saying 'private land'. i parked at the top of the road, with my bliue badge, but still got a ticket from UK Car Parking Management.

I'm putting my appeal together and I think this road signage is misleading, i want to include that if it is. Can anyone tell me whether private road signs should still have London Borough of Lambeth (or wherever) on it?

Thanks for your help!

It's a PCN for private land, effectively an invoice. Depending which professional body they're part of the appeal process may be fair or it may be a biased waste of time.

If it's Private Land then I'm not sure why the Borough it's in is relevant. The issue is whether the landowner or their parking operator provided sufficient signage for you to understand the terms and the penalty for breach.

If they want to enforce it they'll need to go the County Court.

If/when they do you can contest it for lack of signage.

If you parked on private land, there is no requirement for the signs to say which LA you are in. That is irrelevant. However, you may have a case if it wasn't clear that you were parking on private land.

Thanks, I think I have confused matters here.

The sign posting was diabolical. It looks like a bog standard public road (it used to be a bog standard public road). This will form part of my defence / appeal, that even the street sign has the London Borough etc.. sign on it.

This is why I asked the question, because there is no way to tell at the point where I parked, that this was private land, no sign at all, the sign is further up the road and on the other side, and references a 'shopping centre' not a road and certainly not the road that looks like a garden variety local authority street!

I appealed to the IAS, which said the adequate signs were placed throughout. As soon as i read that I thought 'this was not a true appeal!", then looked online and found strong support for exactly that line of thought.

It is the UK Car Parking Management company, on their website they say they are signed up with BPN, but funnily enough the two options given to me were IAS appeal or pay, no POPLA. I have today emailed CPM for the 10 digit number so I can now go through POPLA, but I do doubt they'll give it to me. So the fine might go to £170 at which point I will continue to refuse to pay and then represent myself at court. I've never done that before, but I am so upset at this, I will. I was actually at a funeral at a church and parked on that street and the number of family members who were also ticketed while they mourned the loss of a loved one, it's disgusting.