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Coercive control

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MoonDustInYourHair · 10/03/2025 18:30

My cousin was married to a guy for almost 5 years.

They split up, one child together.

He contributed a menial amount to household bills throughout their marriage but walked away with 50% of everything including a chunk of her pension.

He financially and emotionally abused her throughout the marriage.

The CSA have told him (and my cousin) he has to pay £0 child support for their 10year old as he is a student. This guy works cash in hand and always has done.

He seeks to control at EVERY opportunity.

My cousin has been to the police who were seriously unsupportive. It seems like you have to take your own life before anyone listens- she cannot take much more.

The child is showing signs of distress - i dont want to say too much incase it gives me away but the school have commented in the changes of the child. GP is involved with both of them.

Meanwhile the "father" gaslights. He harasses through lawyers letters which he gets FREE with Legal aid meanwhile my cousin pays through the nose as she does not get legal aid.

He makes false and malicious allegations which hand on heart are NOT true.

My cousin is a professional, degree educated woman with her own home and car.

He is gaslighting the child "your mummy drinks dosent she" (rarely and if so -socially)

"Mummy looks rough"

Accusing her of being under the influence at contact times when the child is collected- totally untrue!

Child reports not wanting to their Dads feelings but at times does not want to go to his as when they do they have to share a room with his new partners children of the opposite sex.

Accusations of not declaring income from her own business to the legal aid board! - she has no second income! Totally false.

He has stopped bringing the child back which is against the court order but police say it is a civil matter and no criminality- what does a mother do when her child is not home when they are supposed to be?

Point blank refused to bring her back- control. Police not supportive.

Social work are involved and were nice to my cousin and told her to document everything for now and credited her with how she has behaved so far. She has welcomed their support as she has genuine concerns about the childs welfare and the detrimental affect he is having on her wellbeing.

He wont let the child go to rehersals for an activity that they have worked on for months on "his time"

He used to make the child change clothes and underwear on arrival at his home then when he dropped the child home my cousin had to give all the clothes back before he left.

Family are now forced to go collect the child and he turns music up and shuts the blinds all to keep CONTROL and keep folk standing outside when they get there.

My cousin now has no contact with him. Her mental health is obviously under strain with this coercive control but she holds down an important job with an unblemished record. Family who stepped in to help with contact have also now been falsely accused and have no contact with him.

He called and changed himself to NOK on nhs behind her back, he seeks to be added to chats on whatsapp for extra corricular activities (that he does not pay for), he harasses the school and meets with the teachers regularly but obviously my cousin has no idea of the content of those meetups.

The childs friends make fun of them because the Dad carries the 10year old to the car. It is all control.

Child loves their dad but is intimidated. Child has said that they want to go to their rehersal and on holiday and if that means not seeing Dad then so be it.

My cousin has NEVER witheld contact as she does not want to "play into his hands" and wishes to keep above the law but patience is wearing thin. My cousin invited him and his partner to an important event in the childs life as the child wanted their Dad present.

He came, ate the buffet she paid for but contributed nothing. Not even a card.

He accuses my cousin of all sorts including not seeking medical advice and absolutley harasses her via lawyers.

Courts plan to interview the child to get their wishes. Child welfare hearing. The Dad is an absolute NARCASSIST. He is slandering her and stops at nothing yet it seems he gets away Scot Free!!!!!!

Today- the latest lawyers letter states that child cant go on an Easter holiday as he wont consent. Whole family is going. It is so sad.

Womans Aid have been supportive but are we missing something here because is is absolutley RELENTLESS

Are we missing anything because I am desperate to support my cousin in any way I can but it feels like a vicious circle!!!!!

Sad
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cestlavielife · 10/03/2025 22:37

the latest lawyers letter states that child cant go on an Easter holiday as he wont consent. Whole family is going.

Well she goes to court to request the permission she needs to speak to her lawyer. What does court order say about holidays?
Why does he get legal aid?

Her committing suicide will not solve anything will it? She needs to get mh support from her gp abd she has to stay calm speak to her solicitor
Child can speak to school safeguarding.

mynamechangemyrules · 10/03/2025 22:37

You aren't missing anything... you cannot do anything. Your cousin will have to sit and take it and watch as their children, mental health and finances are all destroyed while their ex partner swans about controlling everyone like his puppets.

I was in court less than a month ago and the judge stated 'the term coercive and controlling behaviour is bandied around far too often' and in one fell swoop wiped out my carefully evidenced application.

Fuck this shit. Just support her and get her to put her head down and get through it because there's no one in the system who gives a flying fuck unless you're murdered or commit suicide. We are on our own.

mynamechangemyrules · 10/03/2025 22:42

School safeguarding can't do anything except log it in their safeguarding systems. There's no way to progress C&C behaviour for under 16s.

Cafcass did nothing (well actually they were lovely and recommended a section 7 report be compiled but the judge felt it wasn't necessary and we should 'open the channels of communication' 🤣 She said that as she sat holding years and years of evidence of what we all go through.)

I don't have any fight left and will be lying down and taking whatever we get from now on. Won't make it any easier to pack off screaming and crying children to see him but no point adding to all our worries with more court.

Sicario · 10/03/2025 22:49

It's awful. Post-divorce abuse is widely documented by countless women. I went through it too. Family courts are useless. I would suggest your cousin speaks to Women's Aid for advice.

Maitri108 · 10/03/2025 22:59

I'm not really sure what's going on as she seems to have a lot of support via social services and DV orgs. She's been given the right advice which is to document everything.

She should have a lot of evidence of harassment eg solicitor letters, a diary of his unreasonable behaviour, social services and DV support as well as teacher's reports into a change in her child's behaviour.

I assume she's using a co parenting app so all communication is documented. It also sounds like she's organising contact via a third party.

I would contact Rights of Women for free legal advice on how to move forward. I'd also make a complaint against the police as it sounds like harassment to me.

MoonDustInYourHair · 11/03/2025 18:39

@mynamechangemyrules I am so so sorry you are going through this thank you for sharing! Sending you strength x

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MoonDustInYourHair · 11/03/2025 18:40

cestlavielife · 10/03/2025 22:37

the latest lawyers letter states that child cant go on an Easter holiday as he wont consent. Whole family is going.

Well she goes to court to request the permission she needs to speak to her lawyer. What does court order say about holidays?
Why does he get legal aid?

Her committing suicide will not solve anything will it? She needs to get mh support from her gp abd she has to stay calm speak to her solicitor
Child can speak to school safeguarding.

He gets legal aid as he "does not work" but in reality we all know he works cash in hand but cant prove it yet!

She is not suicidal at all thankfully! X

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MoonDustInYourHair · 11/03/2025 18:43

@Maitri108 she awaits an app with the womens aid lawyer.

Her lawyer has not been terribly supportive in the grand scheme of things.

Hope the WA lawyer steps in.

The one police officer who took notice did provide an app that they can access for her to document it all in. Hope it helps x

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Maitri108 · 11/03/2025 18:48

MoonDustInYourHair · 11/03/2025 18:43

@Maitri108 she awaits an app with the womens aid lawyer.

Her lawyer has not been terribly supportive in the grand scheme of things.

Hope the WA lawyer steps in.

The one police officer who took notice did provide an app that they can access for her to document it all in. Hope it helps x

Awaits an app? She can download a co parenting app at any time, they're freely available. Here.

She was advised to keep an events diary of his behaviour, she has social services and domestic abuse support and teachers have noticed a change in behaviour. She seems to have plenty of evidence.

She needs a solicitor with experience in domestic abuse.

As advised she can contact Rights of Women who can give her advice on how to move forward. They have lots of experience in domestic abuse and will be able to advise on the harassment.

OurChristmasMiracle · 11/03/2025 19:02

First of all- contact centre for drop off and collections- hopefully his behaviour in regards to collections has been documented and even if not contact staff will be able to comment in reports about whether she is sober etc.

secondly don’t respond to every letter he sends. The latest one doesn’t require a response. Save the money the solicitor will charge with radio silence. Unless it’s something that NEEDS a response don’t respond

MoonDustInYourHair · 11/03/2025 20:25

@Maitri108 sorry i meant appointment when I said app.

Thanks for your advice xx

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MoonDustInYourHair · 11/03/2025 20:26

OurChristmasMiracle · 11/03/2025 19:02

First of all- contact centre for drop off and collections- hopefully his behaviour in regards to collections has been documented and even if not contact staff will be able to comment in reports about whether she is sober etc.

secondly don’t respond to every letter he sends. The latest one doesn’t require a response. Save the money the solicitor will charge with radio silence. Unless it’s something that NEEDS a response don’t respond

Thank you I will pass that on not to reply! i am sure she has always replied (costs a fortune!) x

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HelplessParent · 17/03/2025 21:34

So sorry to read this. It's all too familiar and the courts fail us over and over again whilst our children suffer at the hands of these hideous people.

I'm in a very similar situation that I'm trying to navigate. From experience she can apply to the court for a specific issue order meaning the child can go on a family holiday. He would need to prove serious safeguarding concerns for the child to block the application.

I know this because I had a similar issue with my child's father refusing to let her attend a family wedding! I didn't have to go to court in the end as a strongly worded letter from my solicitor did the trick.

I feel for all of the people in this thread because it is impossible to manage these situations and it feels all too easy to just give up. Stay strong as our children will need us as much when they're old enough to make their own decisions regarding contact with these toxic people. All we can do is reassure them that their behaviour is not normal or acceptable and support them when they do finally realise how vile their other parent really is.

LouLou198 · 17/03/2025 22:32

It’s awful OP. Going through some post separation abuse myself. Police weren’t really interested. A local domestic abuse charity have been quiet helpful though, so maybe check if there is anything local she could access.

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