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What does a Live With Order actually achieve?

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fannyphlaxis · 01/02/2025 10:02

last year ex went to family court for a CAO and ended up with nothing more than he had to start with. i was LIP and asked the Juste that seeing as we were in the court arena would he consider a Live With Order in my favour. Despite ex trying to block it the Judge listened to my explanation about how it would future proof elements eg if ex starting to mess around returning the children. Judge agreed and the order was issued.
this has infuriated the ex as not only did he get me labelled an unfit mother or achieve absolutely anything that wasn't on offer all along but now i have the Live With Order. having trawled the internet the most i can find on top of clarifying who the children legally live with, it gives me the ability to make day to day decisions but major decisions like name change, education etc still need to be discussed with ex in line with PR.
as a result he is now trying to interfere in all kinds of day to day decisions. he doesn't want any responsibility for things like routine health appointments or to actually collect the children of school send them home poorly etc but he is now insisting he receives every bit of minutiae of information. it's becoming troublesome for school who are trying to discourage this behaviour and it's also intruding into mine and the children's lives. For eg ringing the GP to check what i've passed on about a medication is true, quizzing the children about all sorts of day to day stuff that he never bothered with before.
can a wise person explain what day to day matters and the Live With Order means legally and point me in the direction of a link? i suspect he is plotting to return to court for some reason soon so i really want to be clued up.
this is just a move on of all the other horrible things he has done over the years, last year was family court, year before malicious allegations to my employer, year before dicking about not turning up for the children etc. it's been relentless for years.
all help welcome!
PS i can't afford legal advice as ex doesn't see actually financially providing for the children as his responsibility and there is a CMS tribunal pending but that's a different story for another day.

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Fluffyunicorn1 · 01/02/2025 10:40

So a live with order basically means that the child resides with you and he has to act within the court order unless you agree otherwise. So if he wants more contact than agreed you would have to give permission for that.

in regards to the communication that would be classed as harassment. It doesn’t have to be directly to you for it to be harassment it can also be through a third party. If this is making you life uncomfortable you can report to the police.

I had similar with my ex though. He couldn’t get to me directly so he tried indirectly. Made anonymous reports to the police saying I was drink or drug driving which resulted in me getting pulled over twice. He reported me to social services for numerous things. And emailed my employer to say that I was taking drugs whilst at work. It was all ridiculous but because none of those things were true he didn’t actually get anywhere and he got bored.

let him be mad and do his thing. If he wants to ring the school or the gp let him. It’s only them that’s going to get mad about him wasting their time it has no effect on you. If the school brings it up with you I would just say you’ll have to tell him these things as I can’t control what he is doing and that’s that.

fannyphlaxis · 01/02/2025 11:08

@Fluffyunicorn1

thanks for that reply. sadly getting bored of interfering in my life is never going to happen as i've already had 7 years of this.
the overwhelming majority of school staff have the measure of him but one (unsurprisingly a male who i challenged about something in the past) seems more than happy to collude with this behaviour. i am liaising with the head next week about it and will escalate if need be.
GP won't be interested and again have the measure as it's a small practice who manage one sons long term health condition and have been very supportive to me with the relentlessness of the behaviours towards me. they also 'forgot' to properly log a stalking incident.
i've reported physical assaults and an attack on my home to police with a sympathetic but ultimately toothless response even with video evidence.
i was hoping i could i find something to really spell out the Live With Order so i can perhaps demonstrate he is breaching and interfering with it as an alternative way to try and thwart some of this hassle.
i wish i could get good advice but just can't afford the costs involved. so frustrating!

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fannyphlaxis · 01/02/2025 14:25

just realised last post misleading - the police forgot to log a stalking incident but my GP!

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