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Bread in open bags?

86 replies

DijonMustard · 14/12/2024 09:31

Is there a health & safety issue about the sticky tape around the necks of bread bags coming unstuck, so that the loaves are unsealed on the shelf in the shop?

OP posts:
DreamW3aver · 14/12/2024 14:48

If you pick a loaf of bread up and the tape is undone and you want one that's done up surely you pick another one.

Are you worried about some kind of malfunction of the machine in the factory that puts the tape on or interference once the item is on the shelf?

Dobest · 14/12/2024 14:50

AlphabetBird · 14/12/2024 14:40

Are you trying to get compo from Lidl for letting some air reach the bread?

Lidl's has vine tomatoes uncovered on shelves.

I've seen Attack of the Killer Tomatoes. 'Nuff said...

SilverChampagne · 14/12/2024 14:51

DijonMustard · 14/12/2024 11:31

Thanks, all.

It's posted in Legal because I couldn't fine a H&S place, and breaches of H&S regulations have legal consequences.

Good to hear that you all feel it's fine, though.

How could it possibly breach health and safety regulations??

GrandHighPoohbah · 14/12/2024 14:57

I would treat it the same as any other item in the supermarket that had damaged packaging - it's probably fine but I would put it back and pick one with undamaged packaging. If you selected and paid for it, then that was your choice.

ThereIsALifeOutThere · 14/12/2024 15:00

@DijonMustard can I check

Are you talking about mass produced bread loaf in a bag, like Warburtons?
Or bread cooked on site and put in a shelf, like a bakery?

Because I dint know about laws etc… but I wouldn’t touch a bag that has been opened. Mainly because I’d have no idea for how long and whether a rodent has touched it whilst in the warehouse for example.
If its a bakery type of thing, then no issue

Dobest · 14/12/2024 16:35

It may be a breach of the Enclosure Acts.

We did them at school.

PickAChew · 14/12/2024 16:38

The coop tiger bread sometimes comes undone but it's right next to their "bakery" bread which isn't packaged at all. It's not like it's raw chicken.

Just buy different bread if you don't like it.

Tillow4ever · 14/12/2024 16:43

This is the most bizarre thing I've ever read on Mumsnet. And I read the post about the penis beaker.

Can't see this ending in classics though...

FoxtrotOscarFoxtrotOscar · 14/12/2024 16:47

Are you just after some dough, OP?

theduchessofspork · 14/12/2024 16:49

DijonMustard · 14/12/2024 11:31

Thanks, all.

It's posted in Legal because I couldn't fine a H&S place, and breaches of H&S regulations have legal consequences.

Good to hear that you all feel it's fine, though.

🤔

Bjorkdidit · 14/12/2024 16:50

SilverChampagne · 14/12/2024 14:51

How could it possibly breach health and safety regulations??

Well if the tape is undone the bread might fall out of the bag and someone might trip over if it its not picked up, or put their back out bending down to pick it up I assume.

SpiritAdder · 14/12/2024 16:50

DijonMustard · 14/12/2024 09:31

Is there a health & safety issue about the sticky tape around the necks of bread bags coming unstuck, so that the loaves are unsealed on the shelf in the shop?

Only if this means the bread ends up sold with a few cockroaches in the bag.
🪳

Dobest · 14/12/2024 18:16

FoxtrotOscarFoxtrotOscar · 14/12/2024 16:47

Are you just after some dough, OP?

Even a few crumbs...

Iudncuewbccgrcb · 14/12/2024 18:40

Warburtons toastie etc are just wrapped in wax paper - no sticky plastic in sight (unless you count the contents depending on your feelings on while sliced bread)

soupfiend · 14/12/2024 18:42

Cardboardeaux · 14/12/2024 09:50

Well the Food Packaging (Safety Standards) (Amendment) (No. 2) Regulations 1997 do state that all bread needs to be soaked in bleach before packaging, and then encased in lead before being put on display for sale, but the rules are never enforced.

Also no one seems to bother with the asbestos carrier bags these days either, specifically for bread. Brings out of the flavour or something?

soupfiend · 14/12/2024 18:43

Dobest · 14/12/2024 16:35

It may be a breach of the Enclosure Acts.

We did them at school.

Shocking acts of law. Back in the day bread was free and easily accessible, available to the common man.

Bloody Normans, or something like that.

renomeno · 15/12/2024 08:00

I'm hoping OP is going to start a campaign to bring back bread tags!

Bread in open bags?
Collaborate · 15/12/2024 08:07

I’ll check with someone in the mouldy bread department of my law firm on Monday.

HouseFullOfChaos · 15/12/2024 08:14

renomeno · 15/12/2024 08:00

I'm hoping OP is going to start a campaign to bring back bread tags!

These are still around. The Bagels I buy every week have one of these on .

RedHelenB · 15/12/2024 08:19

DijonMustard · 14/12/2024 09:31

Is there a health & safety issue about the sticky tape around the necks of bread bags coming unstuck, so that the loaves are unsealed on the shelf in the shop?

Have you been to France? Baguettes stick out of the bag

Edingril · 15/12/2024 08:20

DijonMustard · 14/12/2024 11:31

Thanks, all.

It's posted in Legal because I couldn't fine a H&S place, and breaches of H&S regulations have legal consequences.

Good to hear that you all feel it's fine, though.

I would love to know the bap story to this

Spirallingdownwards · 15/12/2024 08:25

Surprised that noone has told OP to use her loaf.

Chemenger · 15/12/2024 08:28

It is like the rule (common in my industry) that you must not walk around with a drink unless it has a lid. It’s to prevent spills causing a slip hazard. Could the OP be worried that a slice of bread will fall out and someone will trip over it? That would be a H&S issue. Or maybe someone who was allergic to bread, and happened to be barefoot in the supermarket could stand on it and have a reaction, I think allergens are included in the COSHH regulations under the HASAWA.

Onlyvisiting · 15/12/2024 08:33

DijonMustard · 14/12/2024 11:31

Thanks, all.

It's posted in Legal because I couldn't fine a H&S place, and breaches of H&S regulations have legal consequences.

Good to hear that you all feel it's fine, though.

My only caveat is that storage and food handling procedures would be different for wrapped or unwrapped bread. So as although bread is sold open on the shelves it wouldn't be on floor level shelves, and anywhere open food is stored, displayed or handled would expect to be cleaned more often. A bread roll on the bread counter fine as it should be cleaned to a high standard, the bottom shelf in the cereal aisle would be barely a step up from dropping it on the supermarket floor.
That said, if the bag of bread had just come open and not been tipped out then no I wouldn't worry. If you don't like it don't buy it. Not worthy of complaint and is a very minor issue.

OhMyGiddyAunt · 15/12/2024 08:34

Collaborate · 15/12/2024 08:07

I’ll check with someone in the mouldy bread department of my law firm on Monday.

@Collaborate while you're at it, please can you check the legislation around varying thicknesses of slices within the same loaf.

My mornings are, quite frankly, ruined by never knowing whether my toast is going to be thick or thin sliced. And, as for making a sandwich to take to work ....it's humiliating when colleagues with their perfectly even slices spot my asymmetrical abomination 😥