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Fraudulent invoices as evidence at CSA tribunal

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Bunnytot · 30/10/2024 10:11

Hi all, I have been summoned to a CSA tribunal as my ex H want the csa decision overturned. The tribunal will mostly be looking into who is the everyday primary carer as overnight stays are agreed by both parties. I have received my exH evidence bundle. He has submitted 11 invoices for haircuts he says he has taken my daughter to. But they are fraudulent. I am aware of two times only that he has taken her for a haircut- I would know if my daughters has had a haircut! The hairdresser is his niece and these invoices are fraudulent. On two of the dates (one in 2023 and one in 2924) I was away on holiday WITH my daughter. I have ferry tickets which prove she was away and could not possibly have had her hair cut on these dates. Also based on these invoices there are two time where she apparently had her hair cut 2 weeks apart which would be very unusual.
Is it illegal to submit false evidence at a CSA court Tribunal? What will happen if the judge is made aware of this?

He has also submitted invoices for a gym membership he claimed is for my daughter. I know for a fact that she has never been to the gym with him. He claims he pays £17 per month but when I enquired online I found out that there are two types of membership for children at his gym - one for a teen @ £17 p/m- (minimum age 14, max age 17) and one for a junior @ £13 p/m (min age 11, max age 13) My daughter is 12. This gym membership is not for her at all and I know that if he was asked to provide evidence of her being the named member, he would not be able to. Is the judge likely to take these circumstances on board?
This man will do and say anything to get his own way. Is this classed as fraud and is it illegal behavior?

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ComtesseDeSpair · 30/10/2024 12:01

This is all discretionary spending and none of it excludes him from paying maintenance, which is due to the resident parent from the non resident parent. Haircuts and a gym membership, even if they were for your daughter, aren’t going to be taken into account when deciding who the primary carer is: plenty of non-resident parents take their DC for haircuts and pay for extracurricular activities of their choosing. Fraudulent or not, the CSA aren’t going to consider this convincing evidence.

Fluffyunicorn1 · 30/10/2024 12:07

so taking away the fact that hes lying for a minute. He is saying that because he pays for haircuts and a gym membership he doesn't want to pay as much maintenance? It doesn't work like that. CMS is the bare minimum the government deem you can afford as the none resident parent to pay. So if he chooses to spend money on your daughter on other things that's his choice but doesn't effect the amount he is legally supposed to pay.

or is he trying to say that these invoices prove that he stays with him more than you or more than you have said? If thats the case then thats laughable. You don't have to spend great amounts of time at peoples houses to get your hair cut or go to the gym so i am unsure why he thinks this is evidence. I would just let him dig his own hole to be honest.

Bunnytot · 30/10/2024 15:32

He's using these things along with other things to prove that the everyday care is 50/50 between us in the hope they close the claim.
He has already coersivly taken the children from me on one of my days to make it 50/50 equal over night stays. This has been for over a year now and I haven't been able to get them back on this day so cms have now accepted this as fact and have reduced my payment accordingly although they say I have given them enough evidence to prove that I am the primary carer so the claim remains open. He is hoping the judge at the tribunal will overturn this decision and close the claim.
This is why he has included things such as hair cuts, gym membership etc, holidays he's taken them on etc.

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pikkumyy77 · 30/10/2024 15:35

Go at him with both barrels. Make a point that the evidence is fraudulent if you can as you want to discourage him from being willing to try this again.

spreadbedcandlewick · 30/10/2024 15:38

I have no knowledge of how these things go but for me my main focus would be going with facts, explaining the hairdresser is his niece and you can prove that the invoices are fraudulent because your daughter was not even in the country for some of them and that two of them are two weeks apart. Starting with he is a liar and willing to provide fraudulent documents will probably have the judge questioning the honesty of your ex and what else he is lying about.

Peanut2345 · 30/10/2024 15:53

Give your evidence that shows he is lying. Even if they don't care about discretionary spending, it shows court he is unreliable and they can't trust him and another evidence will be questionable :)

Bunnytot · 30/10/2024 16:00

I will definitely be pointing this out and providing the evidence I have of us being away on holiday. I'm all for a fair trial and would accept if the judge ruled in his favour but not if it's because of his lies and deceit! This man has exhausted me with his bullying and coercion over the years, I'll be glad when it's all over. 😩

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