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Sex offenders register - historical charges from childhood

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onthat · 17/10/2024 10:57

Can someone go on the sex offenders register if found guilty and convicted for historical allegations that happened between the ages of 10-12 and 12-15? They are two separate charges? Would either/both result in that? The accusations are from 20 years ago.

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Sjdjb · 17/10/2024 10:59

From my understanding the time on the register is from time of sentencing. Not offence.

onthat · 17/10/2024 11:01

So do all sexual offences go on the register regardless of age? Even if children at the time?

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onthat · 17/10/2024 11:01

It's not clear to me online.

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GrannyAchingsShepherdsHut · 17/10/2024 11:03

As far as I know under 18s can be on the register, so even if they're treated as a child because of their age at the time, that doesn't mean they won't be put on the register.

DavidRosesEyebrows · 17/10/2024 11:04

Basically it depends. On circumstances of offences, any mitigating factors, the pre sentence report and the Judge. A good majority will go on SOR, but not necessarily all.

ButtSurgery · 17/10/2024 11:10

Are you saying the offender / suspect was aged 10-12 and 12-15 but are now an adult being investigated / charged?

Yes, if convicted of sexual offences, they will most likely be placed on the Sex Offender Register. It's uncommon for this not to form part of sentencing IME.

This is a useful rundown of how long a child or adult would spend on the SOR:

https://yjlc.uk/resources/legal-terms-z/sex-offenders-register#:~:text=Children%20who%20are%20cautioned%20for,act%20but%20unfit%20to%20plead.

onthat · 17/10/2024 11:13

It says Under 18 year olds sentenced for 6 months or less are kept on the register for three and a half years (7 years for an adult

He has been told worst case scenario should be a 6 month custodial sentence, so if the worst happens would he be on the register for 7 years as he is an adult, or for 3.5 years as he was under 18 in the allegations? He's plead not guilty so obviously hoping none of this comes to fruition. But I need to know what I'm facing by association.

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prh47bridge · 17/10/2024 12:21

It is the age at the time of conviction that matters, so 7 years.

YouveGotAFastCar · 17/10/2024 12:24

The relevant age is the one when he's convinced, not when the offence was committed.

So if he's 18 now, it'll be 7 years on the register if he's convicted and that is part of his sentencing, which it typically is.

PaininthePreferbial · 17/10/2024 12:44

Be very careful @onthat , good liars are very, very believable. Listen to your doubt.

Another2Cats · 17/10/2024 19:28

onthat · 17/10/2024 11:13

It says Under 18 year olds sentenced for 6 months or less are kept on the register for three and a half years (7 years for an adult

He has been told worst case scenario should be a 6 month custodial sentence, so if the worst happens would he be on the register for 7 years as he is an adult, or for 3.5 years as he was under 18 in the allegations? He's plead not guilty so obviously hoping none of this comes to fruition. But I need to know what I'm facing by association.

There are a few different things going on here.

"...worst case scenario should be a 6 month custodial sentence, so if the worst happens would he be on the register for 7 years as he is an adult"

This is where things start to get complicated.

To start off, there is no such thing as a "Sex Offenders Register" in the UK.

This is simply the common term used for an offender who is subject to the "Notification Requirements" under the Sexual Offences Act 2003 and who will also likely be subject to a SHPO (Sexual Harm Prevention Order) or, from years ago, a SOPO (Sexual Offences Prevention Order).

"...a 6 month custodial sentence"

Normally, if a person were sentenced to six months then, under the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act 1974 (ROA) the offence would be "spent" 12 months after the custodial period ends (so, 18 months after they go into prison, even though they will be released at the half way point - or even the 40% point these days).

A "spent" conviction does not normally need to be declared - unless you are applying for specific jobs, like working with children or vulnerable adults or in roles like a police officer or prison worker etc.

However, spent convictions are very different when it comes to sex offenders. This is because most sex offenders are also given a SHPO (previously SOPO) which can be for any length of time, but is generally the same length of time as the notification requirements.

So what this means is that an offender sentenced to 6 months in prison, instead of having their offence being "spent" after 18 months does not have their sentence "spent" until the SHPO ends.

The reason for this is that a SHPO is a "Relevant Order" under the ROA and so an offence is not "spent" until the SHPO comes to an end.
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So, the practical upshot of this, is that, if he is convicted then he will have to declare this as an unspent conviction for however long the SHPO lasts for. If he is sentenced to 6 months then the SHPO will likely last for seven years.

If he is sentenced to a community order then any SHPO is likely to last for five years or a conditional discharge would last for the period of the discharge.
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So what does a SHPO consist of?

This all depends on the nature of the offence and it is aimed at preventing the specific type of offence that he has been found guilty of being repeated.

For example, if it's something like the recent case of the BBC broadcaster Huw Edwards, then there would be rules on not deleting his internet usage and making it available to police officers when requested.

If it was a contact offence then there would be rules around contact with children. This may be limited to the gender of the children that he committed the offences against, or it may include all children if appropriate.
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"But I need to know what I'm facing by association."

Everything turns on the specific facts of the case.

One thing I will say though, if you have children of your own, then you will likely come under scrutiny yourself to determine if you can keep them safe from him.

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