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Nikah/religious marriage

19 replies

2025andbeyond · 19/06/2024 13:23

Not sure if best to post this here or in the divorce/separation section! I have met a lovely men and as a Muslim women I need at least a religious marriage for our relationship to move forward, i.e. for us to live together etc. However, I had quite a traumatic experience with my last divorce and I want to keep finances separate. Will a religious marriage done overseas (Egypt as that's where my partner is from) be legally recognised here? I know that a nikah marriage in the UK is not legally binding but having family members flying here for the ceremony Will be a bit of a nightmare hence we are looking at doing this in Egypt! Will a nikah marriage from Egypt have the same implications as civil marriage in the UK if, God forbid, further down the line we separate? I really want to avoid lawyers/prenup etc if at all possible!

Any thoughts or advice will be greatly appreciated!

OP posts:
prh47bridge · 19/06/2024 15:36

Marriages registered under Egyptian law are generally recognised in the UK.

CandidHedgehog · 19/06/2024 18:14

A Nikah marriage that occurs in a country where that is a legal marriage is a legal marriage in the UK. You would need to check what the law is on marriage in Egypt. I think 2 foreigners need a civil ceremony not just a religious one but I’m not sure the same applies if the groom is Egyptian.

JurassicParkaha · 19/06/2024 21:48

Heya, if you are not Egyptian, the only legal marriage is at a civil marriage court in Cairo or Alexandria. Otherwise the religious ceremony is not legally binding in the UK or Egypt. Make sure you have a copy of the marriage certificate once it's done, that's valid in the UK.

2025andbeyond · 20/06/2024 07:42

Thanks for the replies. Yes, I am not Egyptian and I precisely want to avoid a civil/legally binding marriage. Thanks for the replies!

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nomoretreats · 20/06/2024 07:44

It will still be legally binding in the UK if you have a Nikah in Egypt.

2025andbeyond · 20/06/2024 10:59

Thanks @nomoretreats is that based on experience? So many conflicting information online!

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prh47bridge · 20/06/2024 11:06

nomoretreats · 20/06/2024 07:44

It will still be legally binding in the UK if you have a Nikah in Egypt.

This is wrong. @JurassicParkaha is correct. If you are not an Egyptian national, the only form of marriage that is legally binding is a civil ceremony at the local marriage court. A religious ceremony does not establish a legal marriage in Egypt and therefore is not legally binding in the UK.

2025andbeyond · 20/06/2024 11:08

Thanks @prh47bridge for clarifying!

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Justcallmebebes · 20/06/2024 11:11

No, a nikah ceremony carries no legal weight in the UK, whether performed in the UK or not. You need a civil ceremony to be afforded the same rights as marriage

Fgfgfg · 20/06/2024 11:13

Nikah has no legal recognition in this country irrespective of where it took place. This is helpful advice.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/family-law-in-egypt/family-law-in-egypt

Family law in Egypt

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/family-law-in-egypt/family-law-in-egypt

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 20/06/2024 11:14

If a marriage is legal in the country it takes place in, then the UK courts will recognise it, even if the same marriage ceremony would not be legally binding if carried out here.

as you are getting competing advice here, I’d contact the Egyptian embassy/check their websites to check directly.

Verite1 · 20/06/2024 11:18

Justcallmebebes · 20/06/2024 11:11

No, a nikah ceremony carries no legal weight in the UK, whether performed in the UK or not. You need a civil ceremony to be afforded the same rights as marriage

I can't speak for the situation in Egypt, but as a general proposition this is wrong. As others have said, it all depends whether the marriage ceremony is legally binding in the country it takes place. If a Nikah alone with no other registration requirements is valid in country A, it will be recognised the UK as a valid marriage. It appears from the comments above that this is not the case in Egypt (unless both are Egyptian) so it won't be recognised in the UK.

Ozanj · 20/06/2024 11:22

Egypt doesn’t practice shariah law so no, a nikah by itself, will not be legally binding. However as part of the ceremonies there is usually a registry component where the couple have the civil wedding too.

Fgfgfg · 20/06/2024 11:34

For marriage with a non-Egyptian to be valid in Egypt it can only be via the civil ceremony not the religious one. You can have your Islamic marriage and then have the civil registration afterwards but if you only have the Nikah then that's not recognised legally in Egypt. Back in the UK the Egyptian Nikah is not recognised because you didnt go through the civil registration so won't be legally married here either.

backinthebox · 20/06/2024 11:43

I’m not sure what you are asking for here OP. You want a marriage that will be binding enough to be recognised as life-long commitment between 2 people but not so binding that it carries any legal weight?

Fgfgfg · 20/06/2024 11:58

backinthebox · 20/06/2024 11:43

I’m not sure what you are asking for here OP. You want a marriage that will be binding enough to be recognised as life-long commitment between 2 people but not so binding that it carries any legal weight?

It satisfies cultural, religious, familial and societal expectations and the legalities could be sorted through a cohabitation agreement.

nomoretreats · 23/06/2024 07:49

2025andbeyond · 20/06/2024 11:08

Thanks @prh47bridge for clarifying!

I don't think the poster is correct. It depends where the nikah takes place. In the UK then not legally binding.

Abroad then yes seen as legally binding. You don't need to visit a registrar in the UK because as far as this country is concerned you are married as long as you have proof.

prh47bridge · 23/06/2024 11:52

nomoretreats · 23/06/2024 07:49

I don't think the poster is correct. It depends where the nikah takes place. In the UK then not legally binding.

Abroad then yes seen as legally binding. You don't need to visit a registrar in the UK because as far as this country is concerned you are married as long as you have proof.

You are wrong. It is absolutely not the case that a nikah abroad is always legally binding in the UK.

Whether a wedding of any kind abroad is legally binding in the UK depends on whether it is legally binding in the country where it took place and whether the couple could have legally married in the UK. As per my previous post, a religious ceremony in Egypt is not legally binding if one of the couple is not an Egyptian national. The only way to get a legally binding marriage in Egypt if you are not an Egyptian national is to have a civil ceremony in a local marriage court. In case you misunderstood, that refers to a local marriage court in Egypt.

If your marriage is legally binding in the country where it took place and both parties were eligible to marry under UK law at the time of the wedding, there is no need to visit a registrar in the UK or do anything else to register your marriage in the UK.

theeyeofdoe · 23/06/2024 23:47

I would just go to the shop in Marylebone.

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