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A holiday consent one

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user727385 · 17/06/2024 20:41

Parents are separated, child's dad refuses to acknowledge or open messages for months.
Prior to the stonewalling I messaged to tell him I am taking our DC abroad. 5 months notice given. The message has been read (WhatsApp) but not responded to.
The day after DC messaged to say have you seen the message mum sent about the holiday? Response was yes you will have a great time!
Other parent refuses all communication with me, has PR. A friend in a similar situation said she was told by a solicitor that informing them, therefore giving the option to contest, means that a nonresponse is as good as consent.
Is that acceptable as proof of consent? Messages have been screenshotted.
I would rather avoid court for a lives with order due to cost, and the parent is cancelling contact regularly anyway (45% of EOW contact cancelled last year) so that and due to DC age it just seems like a waste of money.
Any advice greatly appreciated. Thanks

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JustAnotherLawyer2 · 17/06/2024 22:28

He acknowledged it and told the child he'd have a great time.

Go and have a great time. Consent doesn't have to be detailed UNLESS you are going to specific countries.

user727385 · 17/06/2024 22:41

Thank you very much Smile

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mitogoshi · 17/06/2024 22:43

If child is old enough to acknowledge you are their parent and you are on a standard return airfare to holiday destination then I doubt you will have any issues but a few countries are stricter eg we were asked entering Canada and dd was 17!

wejammin · 17/06/2024 22:48

As long as you're not travelling to a country that requires express signed consent, you can write to the other parent with the details of the holiday and say something along the lines of 'unless I hear from you by X date to say that you object to the holiday I will consider that you consent, thanks'

jazzhands84 · 17/06/2024 23:05

I've travelled to 20 plus countries as a single mum with my DD and not been stopped once. Granted we look similar and share a family name though.

Icedlatteplease · 18/06/2024 02:51

Yeah that message saying to the kid he'll have a wonderful time was consent. Make sure you have a copy printed (always take a hard copy just in case)

It's a long time ago now I was dealing with this kind of thing but..

I took to waiting until he wanted something (which invariably he would, usually he would want to cancel a visit sooner or later), instead of replying yes straight off, Id ask an entirely valid and innocuous question rather than replying directly "whilst we are communicating properly DC will with travelling to ...... on " He could never claim he didn't know because if he didn't reply to to the email he didn't get whatever change he wanted.

MrsTerryPratchett · 18/06/2024 03:32

mitogoshi · 17/06/2024 22:43

If child is old enough to acknowledge you are their parent and you are on a standard return airfare to holiday destination then I doubt you will have any issues but a few countries are stricter eg we were asked entering Canada and dd was 17!

I've been asked in Canada as well.

Bromptotoo · 18/06/2024 06:52

Should be OK with one parent in usual near European places where Brits usually holiday.

My daughter was challenged by the UK Borders people at Gare du Nord aged around 15 travelling with her boyfriend's family. They're family friends and we knew them long before their son was born. It was sorted easily and the alarm was initially sounded because they were ahead of his parents in the queue.

It never occurred to us that we should have provided written consent.

shuffleofftobuffalo · 18/06/2024 12:42

I've only ever been challenged when returning to the UK!

But do check the rules of the country you're travelling to, some are very strict every time and require documents eg notarised letters from other parent, even if they are married.

user727385 · 18/06/2024 20:52

Thanks for the reassurance. I've printed out the messages proving he has been informed etc. it's a standard Europe holiday destination so hopefully no issues and I've put the birth certificate with the passports.
Unfortunately since this message he simply will not communicate with me at all - total stonewalling. And he never asks for anything, he will just tell DV he is cancelling or I find out from other people that he is going away over contact periods therefore not having them.
Frustrating to say the least!

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