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"Removing" post from a letterbox. Theft or specific postal offence ?

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SerendipityJane · 29/05/2024 16:25

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13471195/moment-tory-canvasser-removes-labour-party-leaflet-homeowner-letterbox-general-election.html

Is there a specific offence if someone removes post from another persons letterbox without permission ?

My first thought is theft. But then I remember there are a few special laws around postal services and interferences with them.

No pressing need for an answer. It's merely for my own curiosity

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IncognitoUsername · 29/05/2024 16:52

Stealing someone’s post is a crime, but I’m not sure if this would legally count as ‘post’ as it has not been through the Royal Mail system.

ScottishScouser · 29/05/2024 16:53

Stealing post is only a crime in the states as far as I know!! It’s one of those myths people think applies here.

i think there has to be an intent to defraud for it to be an offence here - but I may be wrong

RufustheFactualReindeer · 29/05/2024 16:55

Thank you for asking the question serendipity

i wondered if it was unsolicited would it count as theft and also if the theft could be considered from the company

ie local restaurant pops a leaflet unsolicited through your door could it be considered theft from the restaurant iyswim

SerendipityJane · 29/05/2024 17:00

I guess there's also good old fashioned trespass, in the event the householder did not give permission for people to enter their land with the intention of removing property.

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Bromptotoo · 29/05/2024 17:09

You'd think, in the era of Social Media, CCTV and doorbell cameras people would be more clued up.

bluetopazlove · 29/05/2024 17:18

Just my thoughts , it's very telling someone who thinks they are very right thinking .thinks that this is very ok thing to do 😦

CassandraProphesying · 29/05/2024 17:27

Its an offence under the Postal Services Act 2000 to
”intentionally delay or open a postal packet in the course of its transmission by post”
So yes interfering with the mail is a thing in the UK. But it only really is charged against actual postal workers and the offence falls short of theft as an offence. Actually going so far as to physically remove a ‘postal packet’, and permanently deprive the owner of it, is common or garden theft. The Act act applies to Post Office and Royal Mail but may also apply to courier companies (bit of a grey area looking at past cases). But permanently removing someone’s post isn’t an offence specific to this Act - it’s just theft, so I can’t see why this wouldn’t also be theft.

Interestingly, a Labour councillor was caught doing the same last year - removing a Green Party leaflet from a constituents letterbox and replacing it with his own. At the time the Green Party stated that as far as they were concerned it was an undemocratic act and may have broken Electoral Law, which they were investigating. I’m not sure what the outcome was.

plominoagain · 29/05/2024 17:53

I would rather think it depends on whether it's actually gone through the postal system and whether someone had paid for total mail to deliver it . If it's just been removed after having been hand delivered by a volunteer, I would suspect that no offence occurrs . Doesn't make it morally right though .

ArchaeoSpy · 29/05/2024 19:30

CassandraProphesying · 29/05/2024 17:27

Its an offence under the Postal Services Act 2000 to
”intentionally delay or open a postal packet in the course of its transmission by post”
So yes interfering with the mail is a thing in the UK. But it only really is charged against actual postal workers and the offence falls short of theft as an offence. Actually going so far as to physically remove a ‘postal packet’, and permanently deprive the owner of it, is common or garden theft. The Act act applies to Post Office and Royal Mail but may also apply to courier companies (bit of a grey area looking at past cases). But permanently removing someone’s post isn’t an offence specific to this Act - it’s just theft, so I can’t see why this wouldn’t also be theft.

Interestingly, a Labour councillor was caught doing the same last year - removing a Green Party leaflet from a constituents letterbox and replacing it with his own. At the time the Green Party stated that as far as they were concerned it was an undemocratic act and may have broken Electoral Law, which they were investigating. I’m not sure what the outcome was.

but because it would be a leaflet without an individuals name etc, would that then alter the rules ?

ArchaeoSpy · 29/05/2024 19:35

Using Copilot

Permission to distribute leaflets (England and Wales) - GOV.UK

You may need to get permission to distribute free printed material in certain areas controlled by the local council.

https://www.gov.uk/find-licences/permission-to-distribute-leaflets

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