Surely this can’t be right? Child maintenance

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My ex doesn’t pay any maintenance and never has since we split 6/7 years ago. He doesn’t work and instead rents out the rooms in his flat. He lives in central London so the rooms go for quite a bit and if he was declaring it he would have to pay £380 a month maintenance, but of course he isn’t so he doesn’t have to pay anything. Recently he went on to benefits, I thought this would be fraud but apparently not?! Apparently he can claim benefits as not working AND rent out the rooms and not have to declare it and it’s totally fine? How is that right? Surely this can’t be right? He doesn’t have to declare no matter the amount apparently. This seems so wrong

Done this...in my experience all they did was send the other party a questionnaire 🙄

Then it's fraud! I bet they don't know he is renting rooms out and it would be against their tenancy agreement between himself and them! He's pocketing from their property! Defo report him it's fraud for sure! Report him to HMRC as he isn't declaring it and isn't getting taxed, report it too CSA as he's saying he has no income but does as he's earning from his HA place, report it to his landlord because he's earning of their properly which they defo don't know about and report it too UC as he's claiming when he's earning from renting a property that's not even his out!

There's no way on this planet he'll be allowed to sublet room on a HA tenancy - so just fucking report him for benefit fraud - they'll investigate and decide if he's entitled to anything or not.

Then you'll know rather than making assumptions and wondering and moaning

I'll bet you £500 he's breaking his tenancy agreement by subletting rooms.

That's the figure he's allowed to earn tax free. If he brings in more than that he needs to complete a tax return. You could report him to HMRC but he probably gets paid rent in cash so 🤷🏼‍♀️

Moaning? Are you joking? Soo many men get away with this all the time and it makes my blood boil! It takes two to make a child and yet majority of the time it's always left to the mother to bring them up alone and struggling! This waste of oxygen is delib not paying this woman money for HIS kids and is lying through his teeth and is getting away with it! Why should he not pay for his children and get away with it? It's disgusting behaviour!!! Makes me soo angry 😡

@00100001 yes, quite probably. It wasn't clear in the OP that he rented himself.

Even by MN current standards, this thread is pretty bad. Sorry OP. I’ve no useful advice but it’s awful the way you’ve been spoken to.

It's very, very unlikely that he has permission to sublet or have lodgers in a HA property. I live in an HA flat and have several friends who also do (different HAs in different cities/areas) and it's an absolute no-no. We even had to get permission for a friend to house sit to look after our pets when we were away for a few weeks on holiday!

When I lived in a HA house my contract said I had the right to sublet as long as I notified them in advance. This was almost 20 years ago though, maybe his contract is that old too...

OP

you have posted about this many times. Unless you report it to one of the agencies people have suggested nothing will happen. Just report it to them all and provide whatever evidence you have.

In this thread people have suggested the housing association, CSA, HMRC and DWP. They will either investigate or not. They might determine fraud they might not.

You've been posing about this for years OP, despite your changing names. You've been given the same advice over and over to report him and keep your claim open with CMS. There's nothing more you can do. What is stopping you from reporting?

Because it needs to be worth it as it will be me that deals with any backlash. I can't report it if I won't get anywhere I need to be sure something will be done otherwise it's a waste of time and he will know it's me.

I'm not saying he should get away with it - I'm saying OP should stop moaning and DO something that may end up in him paying for his own kids - he's clealry a pss taker, and sos he can try and stop him

Then don't do anything.

He won't magically start paying for his kids will he? But he might be forced to if you do something.

what backlash?

He doesn’t pay anything in maintenance. He doesn’t even want to have his child overnight so he relies on you to facilitate contact.

What exactly is he going to do?

Who do you know renting rooms to the homeless?

What backlash? He'll stop paying CM? Oh wait

Re-read what I wrote.

I said the POLICY was in place due to high levels of homelessness across the country.

The policy of renting a room is correct.

If this person is renting out multiple rooms and receiving more £7k and undeclared, they are committing fraud and should be reported.

@CBAanymoreTBH you need to persevere. I applied for a variation through CMS after that stage you can apply to the courts I think you get around 21 days. This is a standard procedure for everyone, I have been awaiting a court date since April.... it's in the works because court have been in touch with myself and ex. Ex has to explain to the courts how he has been earning £86 per week! Ironically I had my review this month and his earnings have increased... and my CMS payments have shot up for the New Year.

Stick with it it's a slow process!