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Legal rights for contact arrangement

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MelodyKelly · 17/07/2023 15:19

Please can anyone advise on the legal rights of a child who is not allowed to contact her father?

There is no disagreement between me and my husband. He works with children and an allegation of sexual misconduct was made against him. So far as I know, the accusation is very obviously false. He was arrested and released on bail without charge, pending inquiries.

The bail conditions state that he can't have access to our teenaged daughter without the agreement of social services. I've tried approaching the social worker to arrange a contact agreement, but they are not responding to my messages and calls.

It's been 3 weeks since my daughter had any contact with her father. As far as I know, there's no court order in place. I thought the maximum for no contact was 7 days.

Does anyone know what I can do about this? My daughter is distraught.

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Whiskeypowers · 17/07/2023 16:17

Where did you get those days limit on no contact?
if those are here bail conditions he has to abide by them . Social workers are flat out so perhaps contact the main number for the office they work at and see if it can be dealt with that way?

MelodyKelly · 17/07/2023 16:33

I got the limit from reading around on the internet. There isn't anything that exactly matches our situation. It's for children who come into care and it says a court order is needed and the child should not be separated for more than 7 days without one.
I know he has to abide by the bail conditions but the bail conditions seem to say it's up to the social services.
I just don't see how it's in my daughter's interests to be denied all access to her father for so long without strong reason to believe that she would be harmed.

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Thunderisntnicebythebeach · 17/07/2023 16:34

Why are you so sure it's false allegations op?

MelodyKelly · 17/07/2023 16:52

He has not been charged. His solicitor says it's nonsense and they have no evidence.
Of course they are still conducting their inquiries and something may turn up. At this time, I'm sure it's a false allegation.

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prh47bridge · 17/07/2023 17:45

The 7 days to which you refer is the maximum time social services can refuse contact without a court order for a child taken into care. It does not apply in this situation. Your daughter is not in care.

You cannot force social services to agree to contact. All you can do is keep chasing them, but there is no guarantee they will agree.

listsandbudgets · 17/07/2023 19:48

I've sent you a pm with some information I hope you'll find helpful

PurpleBugz · 17/07/2023 23:14

Is it direct contact? Unsupervised contact? D get clarification but maybe there is a middle ground where letters are ok? Or supervised contact?

MelodyKelly · 18/07/2023 00:05

Thank you to everyone who has taken the trouble to answer.
There’s no contact now not even letters or phone calls. It’s been three weeks.
My daughter is leaving messages all over the house hoping he might see them. She doesn’t know where he is and one minute she says she’s going to find him then she’s frightened they’ll take her away. She’s 13.
Thank you @listsandbudgets I do really need help right now and I’ll take a look.
I can’t believe they can do this and it might take months to investigate.

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JennyMule · 18/07/2023 20:55

OP the bail conditions were imposed by police who presumably anticipated that social services would respond to requests for permission (rather than ignore you/child/husband.) As the person released on bail your husband can ask his solicitor to contact the police and ask for the bail conditions to be varied to take account of the non responsiveness of SS, or contract the police himself (wise to discuss with solicitor first though.)

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