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Credit hire nightmare

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Worriedwendywon · 22/06/2023 16:43

So I just added this for advice on another post but I'm super panicked about it so thought I'd start my own thread in the hope of advice.

We had someone reverse into my car, while it was parked on my driveway. A neighbour was having work done and one of their builders witnessed it. I called my insurance company (or maybe I didn't?) And they either put my in touch with the claim management or there was another number on Google that came up in place of my insurance company and they pretended to be them. Either way I ended up with a CMC somehow, without actually realising. I thought I was getting a courtesy car because I have that on my policy and it was implied that is what I was getting. I did sign the forms. Obviously I wish I'd read the small print! Once they had my car, the CMC basically did everything in their power to maximize costs. I was chasing every week to get my car back and was told there were no garages with availability anywhere. They ended up having my car for 4 months, didn't even fix it, as they said they were getting nowhere with 3rd party so returned it to me still broken. I managed to get it fixed myself within 5 days so the 4 months was absolutely just a con. Also when my car came back it was absolutely riddled with mould internally, despite them billing over £4k for "secure climate controlled storage" anyway after hearing nothing since I returned the hire car 4 months ago, I just had a call today to say they are referring me to a solicitor to take on "my" case against the 3rd party to try and reclaim the over £18,000 worth of costs. It's insane. The actual cost of repair was about £280 in all and took me 5 days to sort once I got my car back. I absolutely would NOT have agreed to any of this if I'd understood what I was getting into. But once they have your car they start using intimidation techniques, like saying if I demand my car back (which I tried to do after about a month), then it could be stated in court that I hadn't actually NEEDED a hire car in the first place, so would have to pay the costs myself. Also I shouldn't speak to 3rd party if they try and contact me as that is being uncooperative. With hindsight this is obviously because HAD I spoken to 3rd party they'd have leant me a car for a few days and saved thousands. What do I do? Will I have to pay it all? I do have emails from the CMC saying as long as I haven't committed fraud (obviously I haven't) and I cooperate I won't be personally liable but honestly I don't even want ANYONE even 3rd party to have to pay these scam costs. It's practice like this that means everyone's policy is way more expensive than it should be.

The other thing I'm worried about is they said on the phone I'd likely have to provide bank statements to show I couldn't have afforded to hire a car at regular daily rates. But honestly I COULD have done. If it had been for a week or 2 at regular car hire rates like when you're on holiday, but I didn't understand what I was getting into. I would 100% have just done that otherwise and try and claim it back later.

How can these companies get away with this? The lies (well not exactly lies, but certainly they imply the situation is different to what it is), the intimidation, the deliberate stringing out to maximise costs? I mean obviously I should have read all the small print and I'm kicking myself now, but I'm not in the industry and I don't have a legal brain. I'm just a regular person who fell for a scam. Will a judge see that? Or is it literally just "you signed it, you pay it" even when I tried my absolute best to end it as quickly as possible once I understood.

At the absolute least I can't be liable for storage can I? When they gave it back completely mouldy? (I do have photographic evidence of that and email chains where they admitted it and agreed to pay my valet cost of £100)

If you got this far then thank you!!

I'm so scared 🙁

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CardinalVerigo · 14/03/2025 21:38

CardinalVerigo · 13/03/2025 21:18

didn't they try and send you to court ?

was you ordered to pay anything ?

Littlefish · 14/03/2025 21:39

@CardinalVerigo no. Not made to pay anything. The other party finally settled.

CardinalVerigo · 14/03/2025 21:53

GrumpyMenopausalWombWielder · 13/03/2025 20:51

Thanks for the additional details.

i don’t know what your insurance co did, but I'm confident they company won’t come after you for any costs. I’m assuming that your insurance co were able to determine from their initial & subsequent contact that you’d been scammed by the Google ad scam, and therefore were able to take over the management of your claim on the basis the misrepresentation by the scammers isn’t a basis for them to have any claim against you for hire cost or storage etc.

Entering into a credit agreement, as they managed to get you to do by posing as your ins co, it needs to be based on clear & transparent information - you need to have a clear understanding of what you were signing, and they can’t prove you did as their contact includes scamming you into thinking you were dealing with your insurer. They were not honest about who they were, and duped you.

I am not a lawyer & if you have concerns, it would be worth speaking to your insurer to get some reassurance if you need it. But if they attempted to claim the hire cost or storage charges off the back of what has happened, I don’t believe they’d have a leg to stand on. If you receive anything from them, or any legal co appointed, pass it immediately onto your ins co.

I hope that helps, but please do speak to your insurer co if you are worried. They can explain what happened their end, and their thoughts on any attempt to get hire or storage costs from you.

the fact your ins co managed to get the car back from them without paying any charges suggests to me that legal pressure that referenced the scam/duping you when they took possession of your car was what resulted in the release of the car with no charges.

Your ins co usually has a legal advice dept that you can speak to, if you need some specific legal advice. Have a look at your policy booklet for a contact number & phone them, if you still need specific legal advice.

Thanks for that, I spoke to insurance today, they said there will be no cost from the day they collected the car but anything previous they cant account for...they dont have a legal or fraud department, in fact theyre pretty crap...wont help...

I did however, report them to Action Fraud who have opened up a case and got a crime reference number.

I also called citizens advice who told me as I have signed I have no leg to stand on despite me insisting that I didn't know who I signed for.. but they are reporting them to trading standards ..

do you know of solicitors who work on cases like this ..?

CardinalVerigo · 14/03/2025 21:55

Littlefish · 14/03/2025 21:39

@CardinalVerigo no. Not made to pay anything. The other party finally settled.

how long did that take ? what if my third party refuses to pay as they are disputing my claim ?

Littlefish · 14/03/2025 21:57

It took well over a year.

sleepwouldbenice · 15/03/2025 11:18

I did action fraud as well. I also asked them for copies of their complaints process (doesn't exist), found out who their directors were, checked out what other companies there were etc so I could link them all in any report
I also put reviews on trip advisor repeating it all and linking all the companies. It infuriated them. I also think it made them think twice about trying to charge me.

What they do is legal but totally immoral

If anyone hears of any campaign or anything against these practices please let me know.

As I said they were even claiming and taking the money for the repair, knowing they didn't have the car anymore..

francoadams · 15/03/2025 11:23

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