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Probate question

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goodyer · 16/06/2023 14:12

My grandad died in nov 2003. Apparently date of probate was sept 2004. He didn't leave a lot of money as care home fees needed paying.

I don't understand why probate happened. Could it be because the Will was contested by one of his children?

Also, I've recently come across papers mentioning shares in his name, they were worth around £5k when he died and are now worth around £10k. The company im trying to obtain the shares through are insisting on going through probate again, because of the previous probate back in 2004, is this correct? I think over 10 years ago I found that my grandad had money left in an investment and I just had to send off a copy of his death certificate. No mention of probate.

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Chasingsquirrels · 16/06/2023 18:51

Probate is usually required to execute the will.
Sometimes fund holders (banks etc) will pay over smaller amounts without probate.
Who is the executor and can't they just provide the grant of probate in relation to these shares?

goodyer · 16/06/2023 22:31

The executor of my grandads Will was my dad who died a few years ago, I was executor to his will. I probably should of said this is my original post. Do I need to get another (new) probate certificate for my grandad or will a certified copy of the 2004 one be ok?

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Tippingadvice · 17/06/2023 08:47

The certified copy of probate should be fine. Also enclose your Dad’s probate to show you are now responsible for both estates as his executor.

I assume the shares are the only outstanding art of your grandad’s estate. If not I would try and conclude everything now.

LawksaMercyMissus · 17/06/2023 09:00

I'm going through similar, I've been advised by my solicitor that I need to get probate on DH's estate so I can become executor of the first estate through the Chain of Representation

goodyer · 17/06/2023 09:51

My dad didn't go through probate as he had no property and only a small amount of money. I can't find paperwork regarding my grandads probate.

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LawksaMercyMissus · 17/06/2023 16:01

goodyer · 17/06/2023 09:51

My dad didn't go through probate as he had no property and only a small amount of money. I can't find paperwork regarding my grandads probate.

The only reason I needed probate for DH was to be able to administer his mum's will

Tippingadvice · 17/06/2023 17:47

You can get a copy of your grandads probate on line.

goodyer · 17/06/2023 19:27

Tippingadvice · 17/06/2023 17:47

You can get a copy of your grandads probate on line.

I looked online on a gov website and could see the date of probate, I paid £1.50 to see the details/certificate but all that came up was a copy of the Will which I already have. I really thought I was buying the proof of probate. Is there somewhere else I can get a copy online?

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Tippingadvice · 17/06/2023 20:05

@goodyer that’s the right place their should be two documents to download the will and probate.

Phone them up and ask - they were very helpful when I contacted them.

goodyer · 17/06/2023 20:27

Tippingadvice · 17/06/2023 20:05

@goodyer that’s the right place their should be two documents to download the will and probate.

Phone them up and ask - they were very helpful when I contacted them.

I've just logged in again and the probate certificate is now there. It says at the top that it isn't valid unless it bears the impressed seal of the court. Do you think I can buy one with the proper seal?

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Tippingadvice · 17/06/2023 20:30

@goodyer you will have to contact the probate office directly. The other option is if a Solicitor was involved they may have a copy.

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