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Ex’s behaviour and wanting full custody

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hollyariana · 06/01/2023 13:04

(Long one. I apologise!)
Hi everyone.
I’m going through a confusing and stressful situation at the moment and wanted somewhere to share and get advice.

I’m currently 18 weeks pregnant with my second baby. Me and the baby’s dad were only together a few months and we split up when I was around 10 weeks. Things were fairly civil and mutual at first but it slowly progressed into bickering and arguments. I’ll admit that none of us were innocent at the beginning and we both said hurtful and childish things. However, over the last few weeks things have quickly escalated.

It started with him coming to my home unannounced with my belongings, banging on the door for over an hour. I was in the shower and had music on and I’d been cleaning and settling my 5 year old to bed. It was 9pm. He started involving my mum in any bickering or conflict or disagreement we had. We’re both fully grown adults and of course my mum wasn’t interested in what he had to say. It’s not her business.
We eventually agreed to him only coming to scans and any important appointment, he was supportive through this time.
He asked to drop presents at my house for Christmas and when I said I was currently out with friends he jumped to the conclusion that I was seeing someone new since I said “friends” and not the one friend’s name see most. He then demanded that we do criminal background checks on any new potential partner using Clare’s Law, I personally found that extreme.
Over Christmas, we had one day that was lovely. Very civil and we had a nice conversation. I even shared some ideas for how we could co-parent including ideas of how often he could visit, and made him aware that I’m happy to discuss everything and find a plan that works for us.
We agreed minimum contact that is strictly baby related but I wanted to continue to focus on the pregnancy alone, updating him on anything important and how baby is and bringing him to scans. He agreed and then mentioned going to court for the first time, saying he’s “happy to cooperate” and “I really don’t want to go to court” despite there being no reason to. He believes if he went to court it “wouldn’t look good” on me. He gave me the speech of “you know the laws but I’ll find ways to reverse everything you do.” He then sent me a selfie of him and my ex (not together) both holding up merry Christmas signs for me along with their middle fingers. All of this was very unprovoked and all messages were in the space of a few hours with me barely responding.

Since then, I’ve received nothing but hot and cold messages multiple times a week. One minute he’s heartbroken, the next I’m being called every name under the sun. I’ve been accused of abusing my 5 year old. He’s insulted my mental health and past trauma. He’s posted images of my son without my permission and not responded to my request to take them down (he did eventually after someone commented publicly). He apologised for upsetting me then I tried to stay civil for the sake of baby and my sanity. I’ve received unwanted texts despite asking him to stop contact unless it’s baby related. Some of these texts are him telling me when I can and can’t date again, sending a contract-style list of what he expects from now until baby is 1 year old, and just various insults, threats of court and random digs at me. I’ve been told he’s constantly sharing posts on social media indicating that I’m toxic and “denying access” and abusive.
I’ve started ignoring most of what he says and taking note of everything.

I don’t want to go into too much detail but he has called me some awful things and a lot of it is manipulative and controlling. He’s made me feel so uncomfortable that I kindly asked he not come to the 20 week scan as I do not feel safe alone with him. Then he’s insisted he’s coming and made plans despite me telling him he can’t do that and I’ve said no. He’s threatened CPS and court numerous times as his only comeback and now he’s in the process of looking into a solicitor to take things further, despite have zero legal rights right now. Once he realised he legally cannot control my pregnancy or be there for any of it, he’s flipped to finding “proof” I’m an unfit mother, states he’s fighting for full custody and splashing a fake sob story all of social media.

What do I do? He does not want to be civil. He does not want to let things go. He will not stop unwanted contact despite me asking him several times to please leave me alone. If I block he threatens court again. I feel so trapped. I’m nearly halfway and don’t want to terminate at this stage but I also do not know how to get him away or what options I have or steps I can take. It’s heartbreaking to me that I’ve even considered ending the pregnancy out of fear. He lives close to me and I’m scared of what he’ll do next and how serious it’ll get.

OP posts:
Ava12345 · 06/01/2023 13:13

Go to women's aid. They have all the resources you need. You need a non- molestation order- go online to gov.uk and download it. Complete it and put it in to court - ask for an urgent decision. They won't give you any trouble. Then if he breaks it you call the police. Send him a formal cease and desist letter saying that he is to stop publicly maligning you, or you will take legal action. Include this request in the non-molestation application too. Don't consider terminating your baby because of this. If that's what you want to do, it has to be for better reasons or you'll never forgive yourself. There are laws to protect you. It will be ok.

RedHelenB · 06/01/2023 15:49

He's the father, you will have to communicate at some level over contact once baby is here.

PeekAtYou · 06/01/2023 16:18

I would

  1. block him until baby arrives. He has no rights until then. He has no rights to attend your medical appointments like being at the birth.
  2. Look into moving so he doesn't know where you live. He can't stop you now and it doesn't have to be so far that he can't have contact. I would be scared of him knowing where I lived and where my kids went to school.
  3. Not be scared of court. Court costs money and will take time. The most he can expect is 50% and it won't happen when baby is a newborn. I wouldn't allow contact without me until there was a Child Arrangement Order. Without one he can take advantage of you and do the sob story about dad's rights. A CAO will mean that you can say "no contact today" without guilt.
  4. Remember that he's abusive so when he blows hot, he will suddenly turn cold again. Don't fall for the nice guy act.
  5. Not pay attention to his social media. Replying to it or objecting to it is going to fan the flames and result in more abuse. You know the truth. It doesn't matter what his friends think.
  6. Not discount termination (but tell him miscarriage). will you be able to hand over a baby to someone you're scared of ? How will you feel when your child asks why you're scared of their dad? I would be terrified of him abusing the child to get at me. I would definitely move in this case too.
milkymeg · 06/01/2023 17:53

Non mol order for now. You don't have to have him at any appointments or the birth.

Don't put him on the birth cert or give baby his name. He can go to court to prove parentage- he might not bother.

Prepare that he will probably report you to SS constantly. This will bother you but you don't show it. You tell the SW it's a malicious report ffom an ex but that you're happy to cooperate fully with them if they want to visit to prove there are no concerns (my ex continues to do this with DD11 and DD1 who isn't even his 😂)

Remember that even if he gets you to court the day after the baby is born no judge will give him full residence. It'll be little and often contact potentially building up to 50:50 in very long term. He doesn't sound like he'll last tbh

Goawayangryman · 06/01/2023 21:52

He sounds absolutely unhinged so I would definitely get some professional advice from Women's Aid. Keep documenting everything and don't put him on the birth cert either.

You do not have to communicate with him directly at all, even after your baby is born. You can use an intermediary, a phone you only use for SMS and check say twice a week, etc.

PeekAtYou · 06/01/2023 21:58

Don't tell him when the registration appointment is. He can get parental responsibility through the courts but I have read lots of stories on here of women bullied by their exes at this appointment and the baby not having her surname. The kids later register at school with mum's surname but their exam certificates and stuff are in dad's surname even when they haven't seen their dad in years.

pollypleb · 06/01/2023 22:05

He sounds unhinged. The hot/cold behaviour, jealously, silly stunts...all completely pathetic. He wants to control you and will use your baby to do that if you allow it. Time to get assertive. Stop all of this 'let's be civil' crap. He will be civil until he decides not to be and then you'll go through all of this again.

You're in charge. Just tell him you're done with his silly games for now then block him. Stop playing the games.

Theunamedcat · 06/01/2023 22:05

Can you move? I would rather uproot my five year old than deal with him for 18 years

Starlightstarbright1 · 06/01/2023 22:06

If he knows date/ time of your scan change it.

Don't respond.. tell him.you will be in contact when baby is born

Block his s.media.. his sob stories are irrelevant.

I would also consider moving prior to birth, aware there may be a job and 5 year olds family to consider too.

lookslikeabombhitit · 06/01/2023 22:11

RedHelenB · 06/01/2023 15:49

He's the father, you will have to communicate at some level over contact once baby is here.

You can't honestly think this guy sounds reasonable enough to deserve any access to this child?!

Op go for the non-mol order, contact women's aid for further advice and block him on social media and your phone. Communicate only through letters. Don't put him on the birth cert- you're storing up trouble doing that. If he wants to rectify that then let him expend the effort. Like another poster suggested I'd seriously be considering moving so that he doesn't have your address. He sounds awful. Stay safe. X

Coyoacan · 06/01/2023 23:31

In sorry, your ex sounds to me and I think you should seriously think of moving a long way away. He doesn't sound like he would just give up if you don't put his name on the birth certificate

Coyoacan · 06/01/2023 23:31

Sound DANGEROUS, I mean

prh47bridge · 07/01/2023 00:33

lookslikeabombhitit · 06/01/2023 22:11

You can't honestly think this guy sounds reasonable enough to deserve any access to this child?!

Op go for the non-mol order, contact women's aid for further advice and block him on social media and your phone. Communicate only through letters. Don't put him on the birth cert- you're storing up trouble doing that. If he wants to rectify that then let him expend the effort. Like another poster suggested I'd seriously be considering moving so that he doesn't have your address. He sounds awful. Stay safe. X

It isn't about whether he deserves access to the child. It is about whether the child deserves a relationship with its father. Unless there is strong evidence that contact with him would be harmful to the child, RedHelenB is right that OP will have to communicate with him at some level over contact.

TheArtfulStodger · 07/01/2023 00:59

Did you ring the police and request information under Claires Law, on HIM? I don't know if you still can now you've split but he may have form and that would help you with any non mol etc

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