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Annamarie43 · 12/10/2022 11:24

exH holds a property on trust for the kids, the property has been rented out, does any profit belong to the kids or the exH

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Annamarie43 · 12/10/2022 11:28

how to move to legal board? or can someone do this for me please

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AutumnalColours · 12/10/2022 11:29

Annamarie43 · 12/10/2022 11:28

how to move to legal board? or can someone do this for me please

I've reported it and added you want it moving op

DawnMumsnet · 12/10/2022 12:01

We're moving this thread to our Legal Matters topic (and giving it a bump) for the OP.

Annamarie43 · 12/10/2022 12:18

Thankyou x

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DancingWithYourDog · 12/10/2022 13:38

The profit belongs to the trust, not to your exH

Collaborate · 12/10/2022 16:42

DancingWithYourDog · 12/10/2022 13:38

The profit belongs to the trust, not to your exH

+1

Aconitum · 12/10/2022 16:56

Definitely belongs to the kids and if there are any issues with this then they need to consult a solicitor to clarify that with exH.
As a trustee he is entitled to deduct any out of pocket expenses from the trust.

Aconitum · 12/10/2022 16:57

And any rent received to date also belongs to the trust so is held entirely for the benefit of the kids.

CatherinedeBourgh · 12/10/2022 16:58

It depends on the trust.

There are trusts which hold the assets for the beneficiary but the settlor gets any income resulting from the assets during his lifetime.

Plantstrees · 12/10/2022 17:12

It depends on the type of trust. You would need to see the trust documents and get advice from a lawyer.

Doingprettywellthanks · 12/10/2022 17:14

I’m guessing you suspect he put it on trust to avoid it being a matrimonial asset?

ChilliBandit · 12/10/2022 17:19

He may also be a trustee and a beneficiary of the trust so he could legitimately be taking income, although there would be tax implications for him. You would need to know the type of trust, what the trust deed says etc. Even if the children are listed as beneficiaries, they may not get anything if it’s a discretionary trust.

Doingprettywellthanks · 12/10/2022 17:23

ChilliBandit · 12/10/2022 17:19

He may also be a trustee and a beneficiary of the trust so he could legitimately be taking income, although there would be tax implications for him. You would need to know the type of trust, what the trust deed says etc. Even if the children are listed as beneficiaries, they may not get anything if it’s a discretionary trust.

Very rare as conflict of interest

ChilliBandit · 12/10/2022 17:27

Doingprettywellthanks · 12/10/2022 17:23

Very rare as conflict of interest

Not at all rare, I see it often. Families don’t tend to care too much about conflicts of interest.

Doingprettywellthanks · 12/10/2022 17:31

It is rare. And so it should be.

Doingprettywellthanks · 12/10/2022 17:32

In the Us, more common

ChilliBandit · 12/10/2022 17:40

Doingprettywellthanks · 12/10/2022 17:31

It is rare. And so it should be.

It really isn’t, but think whatever you want to. Most small family trusts have trustees who are beneficiaries. Some even have settlors who are trustees and beneficiaries. Bottom line is the OPs ex husband could be acting completely legally if not morally right.

Plantstrees · 12/10/2022 18:43

Doingprettywellthanks · 12/10/2022 17:31

It is rare. And so it should be.

No it isn't rare at all. I have probably seen hundreds of them over my career.

Doingprettywellthanks · 12/10/2022 19:43

Well have to agree to disagree

Doingprettywellthanks · 12/10/2022 19:43

We’ll

ChilliBandit · 12/10/2022 19:51

@Doingprettywellthanks - You are just wrong, it’s not an objective subject to have an opinion on. I am not sure where your experience comes from, but it can’t be family trusts. Charitable trusts, yes absolutely the trustees shouldn’t be beneficiaries.

Doingprettywellthanks · 12/10/2022 19:58

As I say

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