Child arrangements order wording

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Can anyone with a child arrangements order clarify how holiday arrangements work as there is a dispute between parents.

Our child lives with mum and the court order states -

"Summer holidays
. * shall spend 2 blocks of 7 nights with the father, not consecutive and separated by at least a week."

Over the summer holidays period our child spent the above time with dad, 2 blocks of 7 nights.

Our standard arrangement is for every other weekend. Summer holidays, Easter and Christmas arrangements are specified in a different section of the order. To me this means the standard arrangement stops and the holiday arrangement begins. In holidays where there hasn't been a different arrangement specified, such as October and February half terms, my understanding is that the standard arrangement of every other weekend would continue during these times.

Dad is stating that during the summer holidays he should have had 2 blocks of 7 nights, as well as every other weekend on my time, however I disagree.

Can anyone advise on whether holiday arrangements supersede the standard contact schedule please?

He is correct.

The holiday time is EXTRA time, not instead of.

Grow up.

Let your child see his /her dad every other weekend . What exactly is the problem?. The child doesnt belong to you only. Why are you trying to limit their time together?

Who knows, but my sister recently got herself smacked down by a Judge for pulling this exact shit, and landed herself a nice bill for her ex’s legal costs.

So you are saying that over the 6 week summer holiday, the child should only see dad for 2 weeks. Why are you trying to impede their relationahip?

on my time,

You need to think about your language especially if you ever get dragged back to Court.

Children are not property.

If you ignore myself and PPs you will learn this the hard way once your children go to secondary school as then they are old enough to decide for themselves when they went to see either of you.

"on my time"

Says it all.

Dad is right and I am unsure why you think otherwise

As pp have said, every tighter weekend, plus two weeks worth of solid days (extra time) for the Dad.
You don't own the children. It's not 'your time' and 'his time'. It's the Children's time and they have a right to see their Dad, whether you like him or not (assuming no safeguarding issues which you have failed to mention).

W shave this with DP's ex wife who tried to argue that a phone call to their Dad every other day when they are with her 'encroached on her time with the children'. The judge told her to stop being silly.

Honestlyi wish my childrens dad was interested in having them as much as he could. Why do women try to hoard the children. I dont get it

Dad is right.

Dad is correct and you sound obstructive, the court will not take that lightly if you end up back there.

We do it as the holiday being extra time.

It is split up though, so he wouldn’t have more than 7 nights at once but if the 7 days fell over the weekend, that weekend would be swapped. So basically he would have the weekend on the weekend he wasn’t due to.

That was badly worded. Basically dad is correct.

Thank you. What's your court ordered arrangement for holidays? Is it 50:50?

Holiday arrangements are in addition to the "norm" therefore if the norm ie eow, the blocks of 7 nights are in addition.

Nothing good ever comes from one parent trying to impede the relationship between child and the other parent when both parents want to be an active part of a child's life. Don't be that parent.

Babe, same. My DCs are teens and choose to barely see their Dad now, thanks to his decision when we split up that he would only have them one weekend a month, and most of those weekends were spent being dropped straight off at Granny’s on the Friday, with him not showing up again until Sunday afternoon.

Selfish arse now has the temerity to whine at me that he hardly sees them - my dude, you’ve hardly seen them since the day you walked out and moved straight in with OW, when they were 3 and 1, and now, 11 years later, he’s alone because she cheated on him and left him 2 years ago.

Diddums

What anyone else's is irrelevant.

Any judge would wipe the floor with you with your attitude. "My time" says it all.

Using the same arrangements in Easter then, dad has 7 nights at Easter. If this was in addition over the 14 nights our child would have 7 nights with dad plus 2 nights for the usual weekend, and hey would then have the other 5 nights with mum. Child resides with mum and it is not a 50:50 arrangement. So Easter wouldn't be 9 nights with dad and 5 nights with mum for dad to keep his usual weekend.

And next summer our child can have 14 consecutive nights with her dad according to the court order but she won't be coming home (I can say home, I have a lives with order!) for the weekend in between, so she wouldn't be going to her dads for the weekend in between her weeks with me either, because every other weekend arrangements are replaced by the holiday arrangements.

So what if she gets 14 consecutive nights with her dad?

There's clearly no issue with him having unsupervised contact so why does it matter?

Incorrect.

The additional summer days are just that - ADDITIONAL.

I despair.

In all the examples you have given you are incorrect. There are times that her Dad is going to have more time with her than you during the Holidays depending on what way the weekends fall. The Holiday arrangements are extra.

"Summer holidays
. * shall spend 2 blocks of 7 nights with the father, not consecutive and separated by at least a week."

Separated by at least a week. He's not getting 14 nights on the trot.

I said next year, this year is was 7 nights, next year is 14.