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Family court - missed deadline

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BertyFlanter · 25/07/2022 21:52

After some advice for my niece, she has given me permission to ask. Sorry it’s long, hopefully included all relevant info.

DN (26) has two children:
DD1 (4) whose father has 50/50 care, no issues on either side.
DD2 (5mo) who’s father has never met her due to DV. At the time of birth even if DN wanted to give access SS had said not to.

The father has since made an application to the court for access and to change the babies surname to his, and made allegations back now of DV from her towards him. He has also admitted to heavy recreational drug use.

He sent £100 a month or so after the birth and nothing else. My niece is still on maternity leave and cannot afford a solicitor.

There has been one hearing so far and all the usual agencies are involved. Before this hearing the father missed three cafcass calls. The next step went ahead as planned and at that stage he then decided he did want to have his say, and that was allowed.
The reports from the agencies are all recommending at this stage that photos and email updates via his solicitor are sufficient and no contact is allowed.

At the end of this hearing an order was issued giving him 2 weeks to submit his statement, followed by her having 2 weeks and then back to him for 2 weeks before the next hearing. These were specific dates with 4pm deadlines A fact finding may then be ordered for later in the year.

The deadline for his statement was last Monday and nothing has come through yet. She chased his solicitor last week who said they could be late by a few days if they needed to be, but that it wouldn’t change her deadline. DN agreed that if it arrived by Friday at 4pm she would make it work to turnaround in a week, but it hasn’t arrived as of posting.

She has emailed the court over the weekend to say it hasn’t been done. According to his solicitor they only took instruction from him on Thursday afternoon and they need to type it up and then get it approved by him.

Does anyone have experience of representing themselves in this situation? We’ve read about various requests solicitors can make to have the application struck out or his evidence dismissed and hers accepted so no fact finding needed. But can she do this without antagonising the judge?
It seems very unfair that he was allowed to put his evidence in following three missed opportunities and also only after seeing what she had written. We don’t want another situation where he gets full disclosure (and 5 weeks to her 1) and she’s going in blind. She is already disadvantaged by not having a solicitor.

Now the court is aware he has missed the deadline by at least a week, should we just hold on for them to do their thing or should we be proactive?

Any advice for this ongoing situation is welcome, I imagine this is not going to be the only hurdle she encounters along the way.

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Lindasllama · 26/07/2022 05:55

As your DN appears to have the DV documented and accepted (by the involvement of Social services) she would seem to meet the criteria for legal aid. (assuming she is in England) ? I would seriously explore legal aid and getting a lawyer.

Self representation is a valid and normal way to resolve child access issues , when it is accepted that both parents are safe and effective at putting their child's welfare first - and the disagreement is about how much time each gets. When situations such as your DN arise - a lawyer is worth every penny.

www.gov.uk/legal-aid/domestic-abuse-or-violence

I am not a lawyer yet. So hopefully the experts will be along in a short while to advise. However I would not focus on a technicality such as wether or not he got his statement in on time - over the content.

This is all about your child and their best interests. It is normally in the child's interest to have some sort of relationship with both parents - unless unsafe to do so. This is where your focus needs to be. I can't see a judge denying your child that relationship purely because their father was late and disorganised. So yes that stance could irritate a judge (if you bring it up).

You need to concentrate on evidencing his behaviour and how it will be to the detriment of your child. A confession of heavy recreational drug abuse would seem to be something to emphasise here.

Perhaps this would be an area where you could show the court your willingness to compromise whilst also putting your childs welfare front and centre by suggesting something along the lines of supervised access at a contact centre with 3 monthly drug testing. With a view towards supervised contact with one of his family once he has tested negative following 2 tests. ?

Skeptadad · 26/07/2022 07:59

If it’s accepted there’s been domestic violence then she should get legal aid. I had legal aid granted against me when there was no actual evidence of domestic violence and there were no safeguarding issues and social strives and the DJ gave me shard care of a baby.

Legal aid is easy to get if you know how to get it. All you need is a letter from a suitable professional to claim.

BertyFlanter · 26/07/2022 12:23

Thank you for the replies. I will get her to look into legal aid but I guess that won't happen in time for this weeks deadline. It's now 8 days out of her 14 that have been taken.
I think she just wants reassurance that the courts won't make her still submit on the original date.
She's a very gentle person, being forceful doesn't always come naturally to her but she's finding her inner tiger!

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Skeptadad · 26/07/2022 17:27

My ex never submitted anything on time. I always did. I always felt like my truth was my truth no matter when I submitted anything so I never cared if she could see what I wrote.

Xenia · 31/07/2022 14:29

It is best to see what the other person has written in cases where the timing is issued to allow that eg where one document is supposed to be a response to the one before. If he is going to be so late there is no chance to reply with the time then his lawyers might be persuaded to apply to the court for extra time for everyone perhaps?

BertyFlanter · 31/07/2022 18:53

She emailed the courts politely requesting extra time, and they then copied her in on an email to the solicitors asking for an explanation. It then arrived at the end of the next day. The solicitors said it was delayed because of their workload.

The judge gave DN the same amount of time she would have had and kept the hearing date the same so he lost the time. Also said this had been recorded and any more breaches without informing the court could have consequences.

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