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Boundary fence

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withgraceinmyheart · 11/07/2022 17:14

How do I find out which side of the boundary a fence is on? I’ve been looking through the stuff we were given when we bought the house but I don’t even know which the deed it let alone how to find the boundary info on it.

any help?

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Summersolargirl · 11/07/2022 17:19

It doesn’t need to be on a side it can be in the middle. Why do you need to know and are you asking the right question, are you maybe trying to work out who owns it?

LIZS · 11/07/2022 17:22

There should be a diagram with the plot outlined in red among your documents, or you can download a copy from Land Registry. There may be a T against the side of a boundary the | showing which property it belongs to. Not always though. Otherwise the vendor questionnaire may state it. If you are not sure it is where it should be you may need a surveyor.

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withgraceinmyheart · 11/07/2022 17:33

Thanks, me neighbours are trying to attach something to it (something y’all which would impact on my garden quite a bit) so I’m trying to work out if it’s there’s or mine

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withgraceinmyheart · 11/07/2022 17:33

*tall!

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withgraceinmyheart · 11/07/2022 17:34

Summersolargirl · 11/07/2022 17:19

It doesn’t need to be on a side it can be in the middle. Why do you need to know and are you asking the right question, are you maybe trying to work out who owns it?

Yes I’m trying to work our who owns it

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LIZS · 11/07/2022 17:35

Who paid for it? Even if it was your boundary they may have ownership of a fence on their side of it.

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withgraceinmyheart · 11/07/2022 17:35

It doesn’t have a t mark on the diagram, haven’t found the vendor questionnaire yet!

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SoS505 · 11/07/2022 17:35

do you mean who owns it? It should be on the actual boundary in theory. We have plans and T marks indicating which fences we own.

www.land-search-online.co.uk/information/which-fence-do-we-own/

SoS505 · 11/07/2022 17:36

Ahh x post sorry

AllThingsServeTheBeam · 11/07/2022 17:37

What are they trying to attach?

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withgraceinmyheart · 11/07/2022 17:51

A trellis. I think it’s over 2m tall, and I’m going to measure it and speak to them. But I want to have all the info before I do!

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Coachwork · 11/07/2022 18:13

Trellis can be on top of the two metre fence. It's only the fence that has to be two metres.

Collaborate · 12/07/2022 10:03

Coachwork · 11/07/2022 18:13

Trellis can be on top of the two metre fence. It's only the fence that has to be two metres.

The terellis and fence together cannot be greater than 2m high without PP. The trellis is part of the fence.

easyday · 12/07/2022 10:10

I'm responsible for the fence to my right, which I know because the other neighbours told me the fence on my left is theirs.
The convention of 'bad' side facing the owner doesn't work - here I have the good side of mine and bad side of neighbours. In my old house due to various reasons I replaced the fence on both sides and had the good side facing me all around.
If you other neighbours don't know, and deeds don't say, what did you assume before in terms of maintenance?

MercurialMonday · 12/07/2022 10:10

The terellis and fence together cannot be greater than 2m high without PP. The trellis is part of the fence.

This was my understanding. Though last house when we needed to check the rules and had higher ground than neighbours and 2 m from our ground was fine.

It's even more dramatic in current house neighbours are considerably higher due to hill - it seems to be our wall as all the walls match - but lower height about 4 ft and their fence on top - so it above 6ft but we're all happy.

MercurialMonday · 12/07/2022 10:13

Our wall being just slightly above their ground level with fence on top - so our side is over 6ft bit theirs is not.

DogInATent · 12/07/2022 13:20

Normally, when facing the house from the street the boundary on the left is your responsibility. Normally... it can be different to this, and is usually specified in the deeds or title plan.

You can order a copy of the Title Plan and Title Register from Land Registry. Note, if you're going to order a copy from Land Registry you might as well get the copy for your neighbours property too as it will show any restrictive covenants that may affect their plans. It's only £3 for the Title Plan and £3 for the Title Register per property, so not expensive.

www.gov.uk/search-property-information-land-registry

Collaborate · 12/07/2022 13:37

DogInATent · 12/07/2022 13:20

Normally, when facing the house from the street the boundary on the left is your responsibility. Normally... it can be different to this, and is usually specified in the deeds or title plan.

You can order a copy of the Title Plan and Title Register from Land Registry. Note, if you're going to order a copy from Land Registry you might as well get the copy for your neighbours property too as it will show any restrictive covenants that may affect their plans. It's only £3 for the Title Plan and £3 for the Title Register per property, so not expensive.

www.gov.uk/search-property-information-land-registry

This "normally" is not a legal presumption. In the absence of a mention in the deeds ownership of boundary structures is likely to be shared - in the sense that it will be assumed to be straddling the boundary. Neither neighbour can be compelled to repair or maintain such a structure, and one cannot choose to change the nature of it (such as making it higher) without the consent of the other. One can choose to replace it like for like.

Suzi888 · 12/07/2022 13:43

Collaborate · 12/07/2022 13:37

This "normally" is not a legal presumption. In the absence of a mention in the deeds ownership of boundary structures is likely to be shared - in the sense that it will be assumed to be straddling the boundary. Neither neighbour can be compelled to repair or maintain such a structure, and one cannot choose to change the nature of it (such as making it higher) without the consent of the other. One can choose to replace it like for like.

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^ This is my understanding too.

Rosessmelllike · 12/07/2022 20:13

Is a bit of trellis worth damaging your relationship for? I'd think you were a bit of a nutter to be out there measuring it. Why not enjoy the extra privacy? They might start a tit for tat escalation if you get carried away now

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