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Stopping on Zig Zags to load/unload a disabled passenger

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PuzzledObserver · 30/04/2022 10:33

TLDR: Is dropping off/picking up a disabled person from premises with zig zags outside mitigation for stopping on them?

I volunteer for a community transport scheme, using my own car to take older and disabled people to appointments etc.

I was taking a passenger to the hairdressers which is right next to a pelican crossing. As we approached, I saw an empty disabled bay on the opposite side of the road just beyond the zig zags. She has a disabled badge, so I pulled in. She objected to being asked to walk that far (about 20m and crossing the road at the crossing - she has a wheelie walker thing and walked about 10m from her door to my car as I couldn’t get right outside). She said other drivers pull up on the pavement outside the shop.

So I did as she asked: turned round, pulled up immediately outside, half on the narrow pavement and half on the road, helped her into the shop, then went away to park elsewhere. Same procedure to pick her up.

I was deeply uncomfortable with this, and resolved to tell the organiser (it is a charity, very well organised and run) that I will not take this lady to that hairdresser again. I’ve since looked into it further, and I was risking not only a fixed penalty notice, but points on my licence.

I don’t think it’s fair of the lady to expect volunteers to break the law and put themselves at risk in that way. She should either walk the 30m, or find another hairdresser.

I am going to raise this with the organiser - it’s one thing to refuse to take her myself, but really the charity should not be allowing any of their volunteers to do this.

But before I do - is her disabled badge sufficient mitigation that a penalty would be waived?

OP posts:
Acheyknees · 30/04/2022 10:35

No, the zig zags are there so motorists have a clear view of the crossing

superram · 30/04/2022 10:36

No, the disabled badge isn’t a reason to stop there.

VerifiedBot2351 · 30/04/2022 10:37

It’s dangerous to stop there. If I were you I wouldn’t take her again.

SpindleInTheWind · 30/04/2022 10:39

I've got a blue badge. As far as I'm aware, it means my driver (how grand!) can stop on double-yellows but ONLY if it is safe to do so.

We'd never dream of parking on zig-zags. Mind you, a lot of people do. But it's wrong.

I agree that volunteers shouldn't be risking penality points and fines.

PuzzledObserver · 30/04/2022 16:28

Thank you all. I will follow my instinct.

OP posts:
SeemsSoUnfair · 30/04/2022 16:32

PuzzledObserver · 30/04/2022 16:28

Thank you all. I will follow my instinct.

You dont need to follow your instinct you need to brush up on your highway code.

It doesn't matter how much someone insists you do something when you are the driver, you are responsible.

SpindleInTheWind · 30/04/2022 16:34

SeemsSoUnfair · 30/04/2022 16:32

You dont need to follow your instinct you need to brush up on your highway code.

It doesn't matter how much someone insists you do something when you are the driver, you are responsible.

That's harsh.

The OP's instinct here IS to follow the highway code.

MajorCarolDanvers · 30/04/2022 16:39

Its dangerous and causing an obstruction to park on a zebra crossing. You are quite correct to refuse to do this again.

PuzzledObserver · 02/05/2022 18:03

@SeemsSoUnfair thanks for the dig which adds absolutely nothing of any use, since I had already said I won’t be doing it again. And I have brushed up on my Highway Code, which is why I am now clear on the potential penalty for the offence, and will be passing that on to the organisers.

OP posts:
SeemsSoUnfair · 02/05/2022 18:16

PuzzledObserver · 02/05/2022 18:03

@SeemsSoUnfair thanks for the dig which adds absolutely nothing of any use, since I had already said I won’t be doing it again. And I have brushed up on my Highway Code, which is why I am now clear on the potential penalty for the offence, and will be passing that on to the organisers.

Not parking on zig zags ever is such basic highway code knowledge you do need to brush up on the rest of your highway code so you can make the right decision at the time, especially when you might be parking in different places you don't know and responsible for knowing the road marking and signage.

If you don't find that advice useful then fair enough 🤷‍♀️

drpet49 · 02/05/2022 19:27

It is an offence to stop or park on the zig zags

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