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Child contact- breach?

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thetimeisnow · 07/04/2022 10:47

My dgs3.5,has a contact order, 2 overnight stays on alternate weekends, at the fathers house or the paternal grandmother's.

From ds talking, he stays at his fathers girlfriends house on these weekends.
Lots of talk about how gf house is daddies house, he has his own bed there and daddy stays too.
The father is still living in the martial home.

My dd and I have asked for the address, stating the court clause and he is not willing to give it.

Is this a breach of the order, how do we word another email?

Many thanks in advance.

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prh47bridge · 07/04/2022 13:21

Without knowing the exact wording of the order no-one can say for sure, but the normal approach is that your daughter has no right to dictate who your grandson sees, where he stays or what he does while he is in his father's care. She also has no right to know who he sees, where he stays or what he does.

It would be sensible to make sure your daughter and her ex can contact each other in an emergency, but it is highly unlikely you will be able to force him to give you his girlfriend's address.

SmellyWellyWoo · 07/04/2022 13:40

Do you think your grandson is in danger at the house? Why does it matter if he stays there?

thetimeisnow · 07/04/2022 20:51

'This contact is to include two overnight stays at either father’s home or paternal grandmother’s home… contact is to continue in this way on alternate weekends from here onwards’.

Contact wording.

They have each others contact details, but dd just wants to know where dgs is staying.

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OhNoWhatYouGonnaDo · 08/04/2022 12:35

Do you not think the father has just effectively moved in with his new partner for part of the week (even if they maintain two addresses/homes for now)?

Why do you need the address? Is there a backstory here? Why does the order stipulate where the father is to have contact?

Hoppinggreen · 08/04/2022 12:38

Not a lawyer but the word “home” could be seen to refer to the GFs house

thetimeisnow · 11/04/2022 12:59

That is an interesting point, re where the father is staying is effectively home.

Seems he takes him there on contact weekends and we pick up from the ex martial home.

There was domestic violence to dd, escalated once she was pregnant.
It was reported after she left, to the police but they didn't have enough evidence to charge.

The contact gradually increased per court order, from an afternoon to the full weekend over 6 months, so he could prove he was trustworthy.
When dd left he didn't contact her over seeing dgs for well over 12 weeks.

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MrJollyLivesNextDoor · 11/04/2022 13:13

It doesn't appear to be a breach assuming the father is present during the contact with his DS

thetimeisnow · 11/04/2022 13:15

Ok, thank you, dgs says he is present overnight at gf house.

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