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Mot fail pass fail

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complicateddhds · 31/08/2021 10:30

Hi this is a complicated one but I need advise and didn't know where to ask.
2 weeks ago my car failed mot there were some issues and we are pursuing them for a refund for a part they broke themselves. However this is a different problem.
They passed the mot after apparently rectifying the issues.
I lost all faith and trust in this garage so today have taken my car to a different garage and again paid for a complete mot as I'm taking my baby in this car and didn't believe they did it properly.
My car has just failed after being passed by the other garage 13 days ago.
What do I do next? DVSA was my next port of call however wondering if anyone had ever had a similar issue and could advise? Thank you

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Kithic · 31/08/2021 10:35

has it failed the second MOT yet?

Kithic · 31/08/2021 10:35

shit - i need to learn to read!

Kithic · 31/08/2021 10:35

what did it fail on?

Original poster
complicateddhds · 31/08/2021 10:40

pair immediately (major defects):
• Offside Headlamp levelling device inoperative (4.1.5 (a))

Repair as soon as possible (minor defects):
• Nearside Registration plate lamp inoperative in the case of multiple lamps or light sources (4.7.1 (b) (i))

However it failed on a few things last this is the similar ones though
• Nearside Front Position lamp not working (4.2.1 (a) (ii))
• Nearside Stop lamp(s) not working (4.3.1 (a) (ii))
• Offside Stop lamp(s) not working (4.3.1 (a) (ii))
• Offside Front Road wheel badly distorted (5.2.2 (c) (i))

Which they apparently sorted but is this similar? Also the advisories states this time are different to the ones from the other garage

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Original poster
complicateddhds · 31/08/2021 10:42

The top two are what it failed on today
The bottom ones what it failed on last time it failed on other stuff too

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UnfinishedBunting · 31/08/2021 10:45

Can you present this more clearly?

So:

1st MOT
Blah blah

2nd MOT
Blah blah

It does sound a bit odd though.

Stickytreacle · 31/08/2021 10:47

I think I that the onus would be on you to provide proof that the faults it has just failed on were present at he first test, as you were unaware of them it's possible that they occurred within the last two weeks, so can't see how the first garage could be held responsible.

CattyMcNips · 31/08/2021 10:50

They're different thing?

Just because they're all lights doesn't make them the same.

CattyMcNips · 31/08/2021 10:51

Looks like they repaired your break lights and defective wheel and now the car has other issues.

Imgladyoulikedit · 31/08/2021 10:52

As you left it 13 days before getting a 2md MOT I think the 1st garage could argue that the problems occurred during that time (even if highly unlikely) the 1st fails apart from the wheel issue sound like bulbs have gone which isn't really a big deal.

I dont see where you could go with this apart from avoiding the first garage like the plague going forward.

Original poster
complicateddhds · 31/08/2021 10:52

@CattyMcNips

They're different thing?

Just because they're all lights doesn't make them the same.

Yes that's what I need advise on if these problems are different or should of been done last mot Sorry it's so confusing it's hard to write down everything that's gone on I'm trying to not overload information
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NavigatingAdolescence · 31/08/2021 10:56

An MOT is based on the (limited) checks made by a garage at a point in time. If a bulb goes as you drive away from the garage the car is legally unroadworthy but still has a valid MOT.

The headlight leveller could have gone in the last fortnight (speed bumps/potholes are well known for dislodging them). The numberplate bulb should be checked along with all the other lights at least weekly (ideally every time you drive). Do you do that? Bulbs aren’t meant to last forever.

What part did the original garage break?

CattyMcNips · 31/08/2021 10:58

For starters near side and offside relate to different sides of the vehicle.

An MOT only certifies a vehicle is road worthy on that day, different faults two weeks later are unfortunate but not necessary linked.

I don't think you've got a leg to stand on.

walksen · 31/08/2021 10:58

It seems like most of the original fails were bulbs that had failed.

The new fail is to do with the license plate bulbs failing and an driver side headlight adjustment not working.

None of these seem related to the original fails and it may well be that they have failed since. At worst they missed the headlight adjustment but you can't prove that it wasn't working beforehand.

For someone who is worried about your car safety there are a quite a few bulbs out which are easy fixes which you either haven't noticed or not bothered to sort beforehand.

SwedishEdith · 31/08/2021 11:00

How old is the car? Have any of the bulbs been changed before? I'd argue that if they're all around the same age, they could all be coming to the end of their life within a similar timeframe so not unrealistic that it happens over a few weeks.

mineofuselessinformation · 31/08/2021 11:01

The levelling device is the one I'd be more concerned with, as it is possible it was missed - but you'd need to be able to prove it.
The lights, not so much. It's common for older cars to have things break in succession (and in very old cars one bulb going could then result in others on the same circuit going too).

NavigatingAdolescence · 31/08/2021 11:02

Nearside = passenger side of the car
Offside = driver’s side
Front and rear should be obvious, as should “stop light”

You are responsible for checking basic safety of your car - should be every time you drive it - including lights and tyres, and maintaining as appropriate. Are you doing that or are you relying on the MOT?

Original poster
complicateddhds · 31/08/2021 11:02

@CattyMcNips

For starters near side and offside relate to different sides of the vehicle.

An MOT only certifies a vehicle is road worthy on that day, different faults two weeks later are unfortunate but not necessary linked.

I don't think you've got a leg to stand on.

No that's fine I just wanted to get some proper advise regarding things as I've been messed around so much Guess I'm an easy target Grin I total accept if things could of happened in 2 weeks I just wanted confirmation really If these things coming up now isn't unrealistic after 2 weeks then that fine
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Theunamedcat · 31/08/2021 11:06

I would expect minor defects not major after two weeks tbh

BungleandGeorge · 31/08/2021 11:10

Surely you can check yourself whether the lights are indeed not working? There’s also an auditory warning when a bulb goes isn’t there?

NavigatingAdolescence · 31/08/2021 11:13

@BungleandGeorge

Surely you can check yourself whether the lights are indeed not working? There’s also an auditory warning when a bulb goes isn’t there?
None of my cars have that. But I have eyes, so it’s okay.
BungleandGeorge · 31/08/2021 11:16

Are you sure? Going back 15 years my indicators made a quicker noise as a warning a bulb had gone. It’s not a particularly luxury feature!

NavigatingAdolescence · 31/08/2021 11:17

Ah yes. That happens but only for indicators/repeaters.

Your post made it sound like some sort of klaxon sounds if a brake light fails.

BungleandGeorge · 31/08/2021 11:17

And it’s a bit difficult to tell if you’re on your own whether your brake lights have gone- you may have eyes but they can’t see the back of the car if you’re pressing the brake peddle!

BungleandGeorge · 31/08/2021 11:19

It was def the brake as they’re the only bulbs I’ve ever replaced (must be hard on the brakes!)