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House and Parking

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LeithPlace · 28/07/2021 08:54

A neighbour has let her house to a local business to house their staff. Three bedrooms, three adults, three cars plus occasional visitors.

Parking with the house is a garage and one space.
Tennant don't use the garage, but park in what is the shared 'turning circle' for my and four other houses.
When they are parked, we struggle to get out, having to reverse back out of our parking rather than turn as the build intended.

So far, I've spoken a couple of times to the letting agent. Parking changes temporarily and then reverts.

Something more legal might help this to be depersonalised. Over time, I think the house has been sold and the detail about the parking 'lost'.
Will the deeds of the house clarify the parking spaces that belong to the house?

Advice gratefully received.

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Collaborate · 28/07/2021 11:04

You can get a copy of the deeds from the land registry for £3. Google eservices land registry.

LeithPlace · 28/07/2021 13:32

Thanks @Collaborate - will that include the parking details?

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TamzinGrey · 28/07/2021 14:00

We have a similar set up, and the deeds of each house clearly show that the turning areas must not be obstructed as others have right of access. The solicitor who did your original conveyancing should be able to clarify.

21Bee · 28/07/2021 16:16

If there more than two unrelated people that doesn’t form a household in the house it is a ‘HMO’ and requires a licence from the council, does it have a licence?

LeithPlace · 28/07/2021 17:02

@21Bee - I didn't know that....I'm assuming we would have seen a planning type application or been consulted.

Somehow I expected that a HMO had to be larger numbers than that.

The staff living in the house are fine, it's the number of cars that are not.

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LeithPlace · 28/07/2021 17:06

@TamzinGrey - yes I think my deeds do show the information. I've lived here ages and I think as the other houses change hands, that information is suddenly 'lost'. Previous owners and the estate agents are also at fault for selling people house where they assume they have parking for two cars....and they legally haven't.

I'm also concerned about emergency service vehicles.

Thanks for your help guys.

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LeithPlace · 30/07/2021 09:07

So an update. I have the details of the house concerned from the land registry - title register and title plan.

It doesn't clarify the issue other than giving a red outline of the house site.

I know my own full deeds give much more detail of the parking and turning circle, but can't find them.

What is my next step?

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Alpinechalet · 30/07/2021 23:14

Go back to Land Registry and ask for a copy of the deeds for both yours and your neighbours properties. www.gov.uk/get-information-about-property-and-land/copies-of-deeds

LakieLady · 02/08/2021 07:42

@21Bee

If there more than two unrelated people that doesn’t form a household in the house it is a ‘HMO’ and requires a licence from the council, does it have a licence?
In England, HMOs only need to be licensed if they have 5 or more tenants. Housing Act 2004, iirc.
21Bee · 02/08/2021 08:11

@LakieLady that isn’t correct, it is five people from one household or more than two from different households. Three colleagues are not one household.

LeithPlace · 02/08/2021 18:28

Yes, I'm confused about a HMO licence, I though it was 5 or more when I read the requirements from the local council.

Feedback from the landlady is 'the house has two tandem spaces and there is plenty of visitor parking...'

It has made me cross, the landlady isn't living with not being able to get her car in and out of her drive.

I'm awaiting a copy of my deeds and once I've confirmed the information will get a copy of theirs. I'll send copies to all concerned including the rather large and we'll know local employer that uses the 'staff house'.
Just want this sorting by the rules.

Not happy.

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Leftbutcameback · 02/08/2021 19:41

Just checking but assume from your thread that your road is private?

IloveJudgeJudy · 02/08/2021 19:44

HMO is three unrelated people. I know this as DS and his two colleagues are/were having trouble renting a house as a three as all the letting agents told them it's HMO and where they're trying to rent is all family homes.

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