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Complaint against local Planning Department

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MillyMollyMardy · 24/06/2021 20:26

I'm going to try to keep this brief; in 2014 we had a boundary dispute with the next door neighbour. Our kitchen wall was attached to their boundary wall, it had been like this for decades and had been rebuilt by the previous owners several years before, we saw the paperwork she had agreed but there was no Party Wall agreement (and yes we know that we should never have bought the house based on this)
We had a leak which was due to failing flashing on the wall. We offered to pay as it would fix our leak. She agreed verbally but the roofer wanted the agreement in writing as it was her wall. We asked her for this and from then on it escalated. We were accused of attaching our kitchen to her wall- consent denied. She told us to remove our attachment, we couldn't it was a single skin extension using her wall so she threatened to pull the wall down. The Police said it was a civil matter, the Party Wall act said it was not a party wall the Council said she could pull her wall down if she wanted, the solicitors said she could withdraw consent for attachment if she wanted.
So she pulled her wall down and we had to go through Planning, and rebuild our kitchen at a cost of about £20,000.
Now here is my question. I've seen the following quoted on Mumsnet two times this week- Demolishing a boundary fence, wall or other means of enclosure is permitted development under class B, Part 31 of Schedule 2 of the General Permitted Development Order. However, on 1 October 2013 this provision was amended to exclude boundary walls in conservation areas.

This means that if the owner of a building in a conservation area wants to demolish, in whole or in part,

“any gate, fence, wall or other means of enclosure”.

This means, in conservation areas, building owners must first seek planning permission before they can demolish a party wall or party fence wall, or even a garden fence, even if all the other works are permitted development.

Our house was Grade II in a Conservation zone, the Planning Department must have known about the Legal change and yet they did nothing to stop her. The Legal change was never pointed out to me by any of the official bodies we dealt with and obviously her actions affected no-one but us.
What would happen if I complain to the Planning Department that they allowed her to knowingly break the law- they came and inspected and allowed her to carry on?

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RedHelenB · 24/06/2021 21:13

But the wall wouldn't have been part of the grade 11 listing surely? Probably best that you are not attached at all now although I feel your pain financially!

tilder · 24/06/2021 21:18

I think you need legal advice.

If a property is listed, it is all listed. Including the curtiledge (sp?).

However the information you have given is not sufficient to be clear who is at fault (if indeed anybody is).

MillyMollyMardy · 24/06/2021 21:41

We got legal advice the conclusion was we couldn't do anything. Curteladge counted for nothing, Party Wall award did not count. However the Planning department must have known about the 2013 law and did nothing. They told our neighbour she was free to carry on despite being in a City that is mostly a Conservation zone.

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tilder · 24/06/2021 22:27

So legal advice said no, police said no, council said no, neighbour said no.

Not sure you have a case based on that.

Disclaimer. I'm not a lawyer.

MillyMollyMardy · 25/06/2021 17:42

They all said no but the Planning Department came out and saw what she was doing and said she was allowed to carry on.
I now realise there was a law passed in the previous year that said she couldn't,which they ignored or were ignorant of. I cannot see how a planning department could not know about a law being passed that would apply to most of their patch.
That's my question are the Council culpable?

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Ariela · 25/06/2021 18:54

I doubt it, but do you have household insurance that would pay legal costs?

How much has your house increased in value by NOT being attached to your neighbour's?

Also worth considering neighbour disputes: should your circumstances change and you have to move , a legal/financial dispute ongoing is surely going to hamper a sale, whereas a 'resolved boundary/party wall dispute, where the property is now no longer attached' is going to add value to your property and shouldn't (IMHO) hinder the sale.

LIZS · 25/06/2021 18:58

Party Wall and Curtilage do not fall within Planning officers remit.

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