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5G phone mast

11 replies

queenofthenorthwest · 28/05/2021 21:42

I've had a letter from the council to advise they are proposing to fit a 5G 18metre mast just behind my house.

I am going to object.

Aside from the obvious devaluation on my house, can anyone help with reasons to object please.

Has anyone successfully objected and it didn't go ahead.

Any advice appreciated.

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Faithtrusts · 28/05/2021 21:46

The best way to object is on material planning grounds.

Unfortunately the assumed devolution of your property isn't one, maybe look if the would be an impact on visual amenity etc. Finding your councils planning statement is a good start too

NeilBuchananisBanksy · 28/05/2021 21:49

Devaluation isn't something the planners can take into account.

What are your concerns?

Do you use your phone etc day to day? The masts need to go somewhere!

queenofthenorthwest · 28/05/2021 22:23

@NeilBuchananisBanksy so you would be happy with it 200 or 300 metres from your house constantly visible in your back garden?

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Zarene · 29/05/2021 03:53

I have one visible from my garden, and 300m is a long distance! Will it be a stand-alone mast, or are they putting it on an existing building? The former is obviously annoying if it changes a view, I couldn't get cross about the latter at all.

NeilBuchananisBanksy · 29/05/2021 08:35

But you use mobile phones I take assume?

Having it visible from your property isn't a planning reason they can take into account. Neither is devaluation.

Phone masts are everywhere and you won't even realise it.

FTEngineerM · 29/05/2021 08:38

If you need to ask random anons online for reasons to object.. you probably shouldn’t object. There is clearly no reason that you can think of of why you don’t want it there.

StubbleTurnips · 29/05/2021 08:39

Is it going in as a tower, in an existing rooftop or a monopole?
What infrastructure is at the bottom it? Is it a cabin and a generator or a cabin? What’s the vegetation / treescape around it?

Are you in an area with restrictions?

queenofthenorthwest · 31/05/2021 18:33

@FTEngineerM

If you need to ask random anons online for reasons to object.. you probably shouldn’t object. There is clearly no reason that you can think of of why you don’t want it there.
The devaluation of my house is enough for me personally. However if that won't be taken into account I will look at other reasons.

Presumably I should change to electric only and get rid of my gas boiler as Ive asked randoms for advice on that also?

Also I shouldn't have had my boobs done as I asked for advice on that?

Isn't what this forum is for? To chat and possibly help other people where you can?

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Lurker69351 · 07/06/2021 14:44

Recently been through this myself although the proposed 20m mast was going to be opposite my house. It would have been an absolute eyesore in a lovely, open and green residential road, significantly changing the feel of the area, and devaluing my house and many others.

It’s all very well people asking if you use your mobile phone and saying it has to go somewhere, when it doesn’t impact them at all. You have every right to be concerned and to object. Has anyone asked you if you want 5G in the first place?

These operators are absolutely desperate for sites. They do hardly any due diligence, submit inaccurate and misleading applications and pay no attention to local planning guidelines which they are supposed to follow. They are looking for cheap Council land (grass verges) so they do not have to pay rent to put these in industrial or semi-industrial areas (i.e. on top of supermarkets). Only residents living within 100m of a proposed mast in my area are notified even though a 20m mast towers over a much wider area. So let’s hope those who replied earlier do not live 101m from a nice wide grass verge, as one day soon they may discover for themselves that you DEFINITELY DO notice a 20m mast, with 2m high cabinets.

I knew nothing about 5G masts a month ago, and I am horrified by how this process works, how much power these operators have, and what our towns will soon look like.

When objecting, the planning office will discount any comments regarding the value of your house or health concerns. You can still mention these in your letter but you should also mention at least one of the following:

  • visual amenity of local area - how much will the mast stand out? How tall are neighbouring properties and nearby street furniture? The applicants will likely claim it is of similar proportions but check with Highways. Residential streetlights are 6-8m tall.
  • screening - are there 20m trees and bushes that would provide any screening for the mast? Are these privately owned (i.e. the owner could choose to take them down), TPO or under Council control? If tall trees, are they evergreen or will they only provide screening for five months of the year?
  • road safety - will the mast and cabinets block visibility or cause a distraction / danger to motorists, pedestrians or cyclists?
  • impact on local wildlife - sad that concerns for our own health don’t matter but impact on bats/bees/birds is something the Council will take into account.
Every adult in your household should submit a separate objection. Read the application and highlight any information that is untrue or misleading. Also do not believe claims about the proposed location being the only option - it’s simply not true.

If you submitted an application for a huge extension that was even vaguely out of keeping with houses in your local area, it would be rejected. If you wanted to put a 2m fence or wall along your boundary, you would not be allowed. Why should a mobile operator who has probably visited your area once for a site survey be treated differently?

Listening2U · 08/06/2021 16:17

Lurker speaks sense! I too fell foul of the planning limitations of these applications. The government are making it easier for the masts to be placed almost anywhere. There is a consultation document in House of Commons right now doing this. The masts already have planning permission when the application is made. It is automatic. It is pre-planning permission which is being sought. The council is contrained as to reasons they can refuse permission. Those reasons are Amenity, Appearance and Obstruction. Radiation, house value etc don't count as an objection. PHE has said masts are not dangerous so "they are not dangerous"?! Nevermind that there are scientists and many other countries questioning this.
I live 101 metres from where a mast is proposed so was not informed that it was to be erected (they only let residences within 100m know) even though it is 20m tall and the cabinets are 1.8m x 5m. People think they are like lampposts. They are not! My street lights are 6m tall and slim. The masts are 20m with huge cabinets. Lurker is correct that the applications contain inaccurate facts. Challenge them! They lead you to believe this is the only way 5G can be provided. It is not! These masts do not have to be as tall. In London they are added to lampposts or buildings or put down manholes. They can be disguised as bird boxes but this costs extra. I have not yet heard anyone in favour of 5G asking for a mast outside their home so they can get a better signal. These masts don't have to impact on communities for 5G to be viable. Listen to Lurker!

HarrietOh · 08/06/2021 16:27

Yes one of these got installed on a grass verge, lovely tree lined street right outside a very old cemetary. It looks awful, and they also had to install a load of metal boxes alongside it that make a sort of generator type noise?

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