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boundary issue im council they are private

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conure08 · 02/05/2021 17:15

hi im a council tenant my local rent office is leeds housing i have a boundary issue which my rent office seems to be all for the private neighbours and not us, has council tenants,I do believe our rent office when the neigbour put in to buy there home the fence that was put up 17 years on our side of the boundary has been given to the neighbours
The problem is 17 years ago the lady that was also a leeds city council tenant she had big dogs and there was not fence up to stop the dogs coming into our garden.
So the council agreed to put a 3ft fence up on our side of the garden and has years went by we was told we could put a 6ft fencing up on our side of the boundary,So we did nothing was attached to the 3ft original fence,But again the fence started to rot so the council agreed to come and maintain it,
So the council had always maintained it until 3 years ago the new neighbour bought her house,And so the boundary problems started anyway the council 3 years ago even though they know the neighbours were private they came and put 3 new post in our garden to support the 6ft fence,But the contractors had nailed the new post to the 6ft fence now becuase there was slight movement in the 6ft fence they the council nailed posts to the 3 for fence bear in mind council know there was a private house next door.and now the council has wrote to the neighbour saydisng the can do what ever they like with the fence so they have took it fully down and destroyed the fence,
Our argument is why would the council nail posts that was not connected to the original 3ft fence The neighbours have put chicken wire up and said this is there boundary ok i agree to that but if you see my photo the original fence of ours is 13 inches away form the chicken wire they say is there boundary,So why has the council gave permission to neighbours to take it down when it is originally in our garden We have contacted the rent office and they said basically END OF STORY fence belonged to them? but my photos clearly show the fence posts 13inches in our garden

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Cornishmumofone · 02/05/2021 17:16

I can't see any photos.

RedHelenB · 02/05/2021 21:25

The council own your property? Surely it's then up to them as to whether they want to give away their land to your neighbours?

Hellocatshome · 02/05/2021 21:27

Its 13 inches in a property you don't own I couldn't get worked up about it to be honest.

GreyhoundG1rl · 02/05/2021 21:29

You can't legally fight the council over decisions they make with their own properties.

Jaxhog · 02/05/2021 21:29

Tell your local councillor. They should want to know that they have just 'given away' part of their land.

MamaWeasel · 02/05/2021 21:31

Why do you care, it's the council's fight, if they want it, not yours. I couldn't get worked up about it myself.

GreyhoundG1rl · 02/05/2021 21:34

Really, the council are not going to go to battle for you. It's their land.

Youdontknowwhatyoureonabout · 02/05/2021 21:35

The neighbours have put chicken wire up and said this is there boundary ok i agree to that

So you don’t disagree with the actual boundary but are unhappy they have taken the 6ft wooden fence down that you paid for but that the council maintained until it was too rotten?

Hellocatshome · 02/05/2021 21:37

Is Leeds Housing even part of the council or is it a private housing association?

CrazyHorse · 03/05/2021 07:14

The photos haven't loaded.

Basically there was a six foot fence and now your neighbours have taken it down and replaced it with chicken wire 13 inches into your garden?

Why did they do that? A fence should have lasted longer than three years.

Youdontknowwhatyoureonabout · 03/05/2021 07:24

@CrazyHorse the fence was more than 3 years old, the council just stopped maintaining it 3 years ago.

NoSquirrels · 03/05/2021 07:49

So why has the council gave permission to neighbours to take it down when it is originally in our garden
Because it’s not “your” garden it’s their garden as it’s attached to their property. It’s theirs to give away if they want.

We have contacted the rent office and they said basically END OF STORY fence belonged to them? but my photos clearly show the fence posts 13inches in our garden

But the fence did belong to them. You said it did - you don’t dispute the council put it up:

So the council agreed to put a 3ft fence up on our side of the garden and has years went by we was told we could put a 6ft fencing up on our side of the boundary,So we did nothing was attached to the 3ft original fence,But again the fence started to rot so the council agreed to come and maintain it

Whether you paid for new 6ft fencing as a tenant or not, the land (and boundary maintenance) belongs to the council. So where they put the posts, what sort of fencing it was - it’s all irrelevant. They’re happy the new neighbour wants to maintain the boundary and they don’t seem to care if it’s slightly in the wrong place. It’s frustrating for you I’m sure, but that’s that.

CrazyHorse · 03/05/2021 08:00

The council agreed to put a 3ft fence up on our side of the garden and as years went by we were told we could put a 6ft fencing up on our side of the boundary.
We did, nothing was attached to the 3ft original fence. Again the fence started to rot so the council agreed to come and maintain it.
The council had always maintained it until 3 years ago when the new neighbour bought her house. This is when the boundary problems started The council, 3 years ago, even though they know the neighbours were private came and put 3 new post in our garden to support the 6ft fence. The contractors had nailed the new post to the 6ft fence now becuase there was slight movement in the 6ft fence. The council nailed posts to the 3 for fence. Bear in mind council know there was a private house next door, and now the council has written to the neighbour saying they can do what ever they like with the fence so they have taken it fully down and destroyed the fence,
Our argument is why would the council nail posts that were not connected to the original 3ft fence.

Did the council connect your 6 foot fence to the neighbours three foot fence? Did the neighbour then take down both fences and replace with chicken wire 13inches into your garden?

Who is responsible for that boundary, the neighbours or you/the council?

The answers is to put up another 6 foot fence, I'm sure the neighbours would prefer that to chicken wire. Put up a 6 foot fence exactly where the old fence was. If you can't afford to do that you'll have to put up with chicken wire a foot into your garden, irritating as it is. I can't see Leeds Housing being overly bothered if there is some sort of safe fencing in place.

CrazyHorse · 03/05/2021 08:01

Sorry, I had to edit the OP a bit to help me understand- I didn't mean to post it

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conure08 · 03/05/2021 08:52

@conure08

hi im a council tenant my local rent office is leeds housing i have a boundary issue which my rent office seems to be all for the private neighbours and not us, has council tenants,I do believe our rent office when the neigbour put in to buy there home the fence that was put up 17 years on our side of the boundary has been given to the neighbours The problem is 17 years ago the lady that was also a leeds city council tenant she had big dogs and there was not fence up to stop the dogs coming into our garden. So the council agreed to put a 3ft fence up on our side of the garden and has years went by we was told we could put a 6ft fencing up on our side of the boundary,So we did nothing was attached to the 3ft original fence,But again the fence started to rot so the council agreed to come and maintain it, So the council had always maintained it until 3 years ago the new neighbour bought her house,And so the boundary problems started anyway the council 3 years ago even though they know the neighbours were private they came and put 3 new post in our garden to support the 6ft fence,But the contractors had nailed the new post to the 6ft fence now becuase there was slight movement in the 6ft fence they the council nailed posts to the 3 for fence bear in mind council know there was a private house next door.and now the council has wrote to the neighbour saydisng the can do what ever they like with the fence so they have took it fully down and destroyed the fence, Our argument is why would the council nail posts that was not connected to the original 3ft fence The neighbours have put chicken wire up and said this is there boundary ok i agree to that but if you see my photo the original fence of ours is 13 inches away form the chicken wire they say is there boundary,So why has the council gave permission to neighbours to take it down when it is originally in our garden We have contacted the rent office and they said basically END OF STORY fence belonged to them? but my photos clearly show the fence posts 13inches in our garden

sorry how do i put photo on please

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NoSquirrels · 03/05/2021 08:54

Do you see a little paperclip icon under the post window, OP? Click that to add a photo.

UhtredRagnarson · 03/05/2021 08:56

@RedHelenB

The council own your property? Surely it's then up to them as to whether they want to give away their land to your neighbours?

Yeah, if the house is vacant, but OP is paying rent for the property so she should have use of all the land that is in the contract and paid for by her.

CrazyHorse · 03/05/2021 09:00

Click on the paper clip, then click on the + and it will take you to your photo

Original poster

conure08 · 03/05/2021 09:38

Hi there is no paper clip

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ChessieFL · 03/05/2021 13:59

I don’t think you can add photos if you’re a brand new member (not sure if you are OP but that might be the reason).

RedHelenB · 03/05/2021 14:44

@UhtredRagnarson I'm sure OP can give notice and leave due to it being a slightly smaller garden than she signed up for. However, I can't see OP getting what she wants here, the decision has been made with the neighbours.

UhtredRagnarson · 03/05/2021 14:50

I’m sure you would follow that advice yourself @RedHelenB

Singlenotsingle · 03/05/2021 14:52

It's not your property OP. You have 2 options - put up with it, or move out! It's not your house; not your garden.

LST · 03/05/2021 15:01

I dont think you really have a leg to stand on. Annoying as it is for you.

nellly · 03/05/2021 15:11

They will want the private tenant to take over responsibility of the boundary as council funds are desperately low so if private owner takes over it's better for taxpayers.
Boundaries as set out by land registry are usually labelled for guidance only and it's difficult to contents a few inches either way based on old plans usually

There's no legal obligation to fence a boundary and chicken wire is legally fine. It's up to council to argue if they think your neighbour put it in wrong place

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