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Can she get a court order to reveal who anonymously reported her to ss

30 replies

Kerravon34 · 30/08/2020 10:55

Hi I reported a woman to social services anonymously .She now says that she will find out who reported her anonymously by getting a court order. Is this possible? She’s obviously furious and knocking on doors, interrogating neighbours, she says she will kill the person who’s reported her, she’s been imprisoned for ABH, so she means it.
I reported that she was leaving meds on the floor around a toddler,
I was then asked a list of questions about whether he was being fed and stuff and I made it clear that the child was well fed and clothed, and fine in all other ways, than there being meds around. So, if anyone looks at my report they should be able to tell it was not malicious.
I thought the only way my anonymity could be withdrawn was if my report was seen as malicious. I thought they’d just advise her to keep her meds away from the child but they’ve stopped her even seeing her sons who she visits, (they are already in care.) I don’t get how her house having meds lying around affects her supervised visits to her kids in another home.i didn’t mean for this to happen.

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Findahouse21 · 30/08/2020 10:58

She can request her own records from the local authority but they would be redacted to remove any third party information including your own. Even if it was a malicious report they still would not share your identity. How do you draw the line between overly concerned and actively malicious? No one would ever report anything

LabradorGalore · 30/08/2020 10:58

I don’t know if she can be surely it seems highly unlikely given that SS have acted on the report and taken action. It’s not your fault that SS have taken the action they have regarding her sons - you have raised a legitimate concern and they agreed and responded to it. She shouldn’t be leaving medication on the floor around young children.

Is there any way you can distance yourself from her? She doesn’t sound like a nice individual to be honest.

Fairybatman · 30/08/2020 11:04

I think you should reassure yourself with the fact that social services would not stop supervised contact unless there were bigger issues than you suggest. It may be that what you reported is a piece in a bigger jigsaw or has led to further disclosures / discoveries which have led to this action.

If you are worried about her reaction then you could speak to SS again, but be aware that by them speaking to her reaction that might narrow down the suspects for her!

You might be better to style it out and just deny, act shocked, sympathise etc. to keep yourself and family safe.

luzzbightyear · 30/08/2020 11:05

Surely the fact that's she's also making threats to kill the person who reported her also needs to be reported, not just to SS but also the Police. This can be done anonymously and SS and the Police should protect their sources of information, particularly where there are children are at risk anyway.

Thisismytimetoshine · 30/08/2020 11:06

No court would enable this nonsense, stop worrying.

SnuggyBuggy · 30/08/2020 11:11

I wouldn't blame yourself, SS obviously found far more wrong than medication on the floor.

Iamtooknackeredtorun · 30/08/2020 11:12

She can apply to SS for the info but I am pretty certain they would decline on confidentiality grounds. There needs to be a 'safe space' for people to report concerns without their names then being provided to the subject of the report.

notthemum · 30/08/2020 11:13

Honestly as pp have said she CANNOT get this information and no court would give it to her. For your sake though you need to calm down, as someone getting upset and flustered will encourage her to think it's you.

StrictlyAFemaleFemale · 30/08/2020 11:16

Contact will not have been withdrawn on the basis of that information alone. There will be more things happening that you are not privy to. She may already have been warned that she needed to be better at keeping the children safe in order to keep contact.

You've nothing to be ashamed of.

MrsHuntGeneNotJeremyObviously · 30/08/2020 11:17

I think OP did do the right thing and should be protected.
But what happens when there are malicious reports. How do families unfairly accused get justice against the person slandering them?

Ariela · 30/08/2020 11:23

My advice is stop worrying about it. It's her own fault for being unsafe.

If you hadn't reported it and those kids had eaten the medicine and died, or been very ill with long lasting effects, I'm quite sure you'd feel far more awful than you do now for NOT reporting it.

Shayisgreat · 30/08/2020 11:25

No she can't get an order from the Court for the identity of an anonymous referrer to be revealed.

As a pp said, she can request the council to provide all the details they have on file about her but your details would be redacted. The details of your concerns would be given as would their rationale for acting on it.

She sounds scary. I'd report her to the police if she's making threats to kill!

GabsAlot · 30/08/2020 11:34

op its obvious it isnt just the meds on the floor that she has to see her kids supervised-shes blaming it all on the person to deflect from what else is going on

romeolovedjulliet · 30/08/2020 11:39

maybe i'm being dim but how did you know meds were left on the floor and therefore a reporting issue ?

Kerravon34 · 30/08/2020 11:50

Hi thank you all so much. I feel much better now.

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takenbywine · 30/08/2020 11:53

Did you post before about this? I remember reading a thread about someone leaving medication lying around.

Mrsjayy · 30/08/2020 11:55

you didn't have her visits stopped she did her SW would have had things in place so she could see her sons, and for whatever reasons that was breached . She is on the hunt for who it was because she is unable to take responsibility so looking to blame. She won't find out unless you tell her

AnteaterTonic · 30/08/2020 12:03

romeolovedjulliet

maybe i'm being dim but how did you know meds were left on the floor and therefore a reporting issue ?

She could have been at her house. Maybe she could see inside the house from her home or when walking by. I see a lot of my neighbours' homes when I walk past, and I can see directly into a neighbour's kitchen from my bedroom.

Princessbanana · 30/08/2020 12:07

No, this cannot happen. If this did happen there would be a lot of people not reporting things for fear of this happening. A judge or social services cannot and will not tell who reported them.

Branleuse · 30/08/2020 12:17

No way, they will not give that information, otherwise noone would report anything.
Plus if she cant get it together to keep her kids or look after them safely, then hows she going to get it together to sort out a court order anyway.
None of this is going to happen, but if she threatens you, then tell the police

Kerravon34 · 30/08/2020 12:36

Hi Yes, I did post about this before ( asking if I had done the right thing or not) but asked for it to be deleted because I then realised she could possibly read it and guess who I am from from the details I’d put. I’m sorry, but I can’t say how I saw the meds or I’d be identifying myself (again).
I’m now suspicious that someone else has reported her as well because she just knocked on my door and she told me details of allegations I certainly never made. I just acted innocent I feel safer now you reassured me she cannot legally find out my identity.

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takenbywine · 30/08/2020 15:05

I doubt she could find out as the whole point of being anonymous is to be anonymous. She's doing it probably to make people crack so she could see through who did it. Next time she attempts to confront/throw threats act as if how someone could do such a thing.

romeolovedjulliet · 30/08/2020 15:39

@AnteaterTonic

romeolovedjulliet

maybe i'm being dim but how did you know meds were left on the floor and therefore a reporting issue ?

She could have been at her house. Maybe she could see inside the house from her home or when walking by. I see a lot of my neighbours' homes when I walk past, and I can see directly into a neighbour's kitchen from my bedroom.

to see tablets on a floor through a window ? crikey that's great eye sight or being too close to the window to start with. if op had been in the house, ms.batshit would be pointing the finger straight away. what a situation, it's good that you feel better about things op.
StoneColdBitch · 31/08/2020 15:43

Social Services will not release this information, even if the report turns out to be completely baseless or malicious. Sadly I've been the victim of a malicious report with no basis in truth whatsoever; SS took no further action, and were very reassuring to me, but they (quite reasonably) couldn't tell me who it was. I have a strong suspicion and have stopped having contact with that person to avoid any further nonsense.

SleepingStandingUp · 31/08/2020 15:47

@romeolovedjulliet depends how lax she is with the needs and how many people in and out is her house. If she only ever left it out once when Mary from no14 came over to collect her child then yeah, it's obvious but sounds like there's more then one person noticing stuff and reporting