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Neighbours proposing a business next door

54 replies

Boredbumhead · 25/07/2020 20:30

Planning permission has been sought for a next door neighbour to run a business from their home. It's likely there will be some noise and regular coming and goings and I've made some general comments to planning though not objected. Neighbours now not speaking to me! Not sure if this is a legal or AIBU issue but didn't want to make this post too visible in case they are on Mumsnet.

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cantstopsinginglittlebabybum · 26/07/2020 20:07

I would be more concerned about selling the house if you were to ever consider it in the future if it was too much for you listening to this all the time.

SeaState3 · 26/07/2020 20:07

Hippy weddings my arse!

How many hippies are there to get married anyway - most would be 60 pushing 70 by now. Hippy funerals yes, but weddings no!

If you’ve got pets or animals (seing as you live in the country), I’m sure you don’t want constant fireworks and pissed up revellers disturbing your peaceful life, plus parking mushing up verges when it’s wet or cars doing turning circles in your gateway, extra litter etc.

JaniceBattersby · 26/07/2020 20:08

Is it a residential area or is it rural? I think it very much depends on the type of property you live in. If you’re next to a stately home then I think what they’re proposing could well be reasonable. If it’s Acacia Avenue in Basingstoke then I think they might struggle to justify it.

And don’t fall for the ‘daytime weddings for hippies’ rubbish. Once you have a wedding licence, you can’t stipulate that it’s going to be hippies only.

SeasonFinale · 26/07/2020 20:11

Hippy weddings so drugs as well as drink!
And tents over night. And chanting and fireworks will work their way in too.

OhhhPeee · 26/07/2020 20:15

Ooh, imagine all the sunrise hippy weddings all summer long.
If anything, you need to add a strong objection along with your comments.

Pipandmum · 26/07/2020 20:16

How close a neighbour are they? I can't see a normal suburban house being suitable or desirable for this kind of business, so it must be detached with land. I think you need to explain your proximity to the house.
However it is normal to publish the comments in full, including names and addresses. This is a public record.
I also can't see many near neighbours welcoming this kind of business.

AllTheCakes · 26/07/2020 20:22

Never mind a few comments to the council, you need to ensure you strongly oppose the proposal and ensure your other neighbours and people in the area do the same. Her idea of running a business does not have priority over your right to quiet and peaceful enjoyment of your home.

Not getting on with the neighbour is much better than living with their business next door disturbing you day and night.

AllTheCakes · 26/07/2020 20:24

Also, they might not ever be granted a wedding license so they couldn’t hold legal ceremonies there, but that will be nothing compared to wedding receptions with loud music going on late in to the evening

AntiHop · 26/07/2020 20:26

How close are they to you?

LordOftheRingz · 26/07/2020 20:27

Just object, I would.

Campingintheraintoday · 26/07/2020 20:30

Suggest a cut of her profits as compensation...
Grin

TheQueef · 26/07/2020 20:33

I don't know what would be worse a play barn or hippy spa.
Why would you inflict that on a residential area?

PersonaNonGarter · 26/07/2020 20:38

Object. You make your case, she can make hers.

Not sure why her wishes trump yours - don’t feel guilty. The decision isn’t yours alone. Stand your ground and hold your held up.

AnnieMaul · 26/07/2020 20:38

The rules surrounding things like weddings are actually very strict and it's not as simple as someone just deciding they want to host that kind of thing. Even putting aside the licensing issue for legal wedding ceremonies, events and gatherings in general for the purpose of business are subject to such rules too.

If you're in an area with neighbouring properties and there are not already existing businesses such as pubs, clubs, hotels etc nearby offering similar it's most likely not going to get the go ahead. And if it does there will be strict terms applied.

For example, a strict maximum of 12 events permitted per year, sound limiters in place, amplified music to end up x time (usually 11pm) music only allowed to project towards a certain direction and so on.

I work in the wedding & events industry and often even very remote places have strict rules to follow. A field & barn in the arse end of nowhere that I've worked at is capped to just 1 event a month and bound by a music off by 11 and site clear by 11:30pm rule for example.

anyoldname76 · 26/07/2020 20:39

Is it your next door neighbour as in a semi or detached in a residential street, or is it the next small holding/farm next to you? Residential then yanbu but if it's a field or 2 away from you then maybe you are BU a bit,no harm objecting though, just the cost of neighbourly relations. if they get the go ahead does it leave the door open to increase of opening hours etc or is there set hours of business?

SeaState3 · 26/07/2020 20:50

Issues with serving alcohol?

Boredbumhead · 26/07/2020 20:53

It's a detached. It's next house over. It has some adjoining land but the sound carries here. For reference, I can hear sounds from about 1 mile away.

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StCharlotte · 27/07/2020 00:12

I'd be brilliant at running a chattery Smile

Thisismytimetoshine · 27/07/2020 00:22

Are they proposing to build a new structure or hold the wedding ceremonies in their house? Is it a Stately Home?
It'd have to be quite some house to attract the wedding crew, detached or not.

Boredbumhead · 27/07/2020 10:35

They want to erect a big tent or marquee for weddings....

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Charleyhorses · 27/07/2020 18:59

You might as well properly and formally object then.

AnnieMaul · 27/07/2020 19:12

@Boredbumhead

They want to erect a big tent or marquee for weddings....
Even established wedding venues can have a problem getting permission for that. I think the chances are slim to none unless neighbours are actually quite a distance away or it's already quite a buzzing area where you'd expect the kind of noise that comes with large celebrations.

The way many wedding venues get around it is to have a marquee up for only 6 months of the year and then they don't need permission for the marquee as it's "a temporary structure" . Or they simply let guests hire in their own. If they do that they're much more likely to then be capped to only a handful of events a year.

damnthatanxiety · 27/07/2020 19:48

It's a detached residential house? Who has their wedding at some random person's house? Even if they have a large garden it sounds really weird.

Thisismytimetoshine · 27/07/2020 20:02

I wonder if she's done her research properly. Opening a wedding venue doesn't guarantee an instant stream of customers.
Maybe nobody will use it even if she gets permission.

queenrollo · 28/07/2020 11:10

I suspect she is not looking at setting up as a formal wedding venue but instead offering handfasting type ceremonies.
Some of the posts on here likening hippies to drugged up, firework loving loons are a bit laughable but it's a social scene I am very familiar with and I would not want this setting up next door to me. For every quiet and respectful earth loving hippy there IS the sort who wants to sit up all night round a camp-fire and they can be noisy, because voices will carry.

I have friends who run retreats, but no celebration or music takes place and actually they are exactly the kind of neighbours you want as it's all about privacy and peace and quiet.
That doesn't sound at all like the sort of thing your neighbour is looking to set up.

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