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Do I have a case to raise against social services?

19 replies

Deepinmythoughts · 09/07/2020 23:02

Please be kind in your replies, I still carry alot of trauma from this era of my life. I've began to look back and unpick things and I believe I was failed terribly by social services and need closure. I'm not looking for compensation, just acknowledgement that I was failed.

I was born to a single mother with a learning disability. By the age of 8 i was on social services radar because my mother neglected me and moved us in with a convicted sex offender, there was no abuse (thankfully) and SS ordered my DM to move us out which she did - but kept in contact with said man. I remained on a child in need plan.

I was never in school and by year 7 had dropped out completely with no encouragement to return.

We were living in poverty and the house was targeted by local youths and all of the windows smashed and replaced with boards which were then spray painted on. My mother failed to keep the home clean and her animals regularly went to the toilet indoors which made for a disgusting environment. If i needed new clothes i had to shop lift them.

My mother got involved with another (unconvinced I believe) paedophile who groomed me and tried to assault me. I was convinced not to report him but I did tell SS what had happened.

By age 12 I was being targeted by older men and ended up contracting sexually transmitted infections, I would regularly go missing and I was also self harming. SS knew about this and didn't remove me from the home. I was upgraded to a child protection plan (which made no difference to the support i received)

I was that desperate to be removed from the house that SS have me on record as saying if they didn't take me away to look after me then I would run away and fund my expenses by selling sex. They still didn't take me away.

I confided in a youth offending support worker that I had been selling sex in order to get away from home (age 14) and they did nothing with the information.

I was hospitalised multiple times as a result of drug use between the ages of 12 and 13, the latter occasion rendering me in intensive care and almost cost me my life. They still didn't take me away.

I tried to purposefully overdose at age 14, they still didn't take me away.

There is so much crap I would be here all night typing out the hell I went through that they know about.

I had the most miserable upbringing that I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy and despite begging to be removed and put into care they never helped me. All I wanted was a chance at a normal life. Whilst all this was going on the most 'help' I got from social services was an occasional home visit from a disinterested social worker who did nothing with the information they had.

Fast forward to aged 18 I found myself in an abusive relationship (unsurprisingly) and I fell pregnant. When I spoke to the midwife about abuse, I was referred to the same social services department.

To cut a long story short they failed to help me again. I wanted to move away and I was asking for their help to relocate but they told me to stay where I was so as not to disrupt the pre birth assessment they were doing.

Instead of supporting me to get out of the relationship they mislead me about their intentions and waited until I was 36 weeks pregnant to tell me they would be applying to remove my baby at birth. Believe it or not (and i appreciate it sounds quite unbelievable) there was no encouragement to leave the relationship, no ultimatum and no advice on what to do to get out safely. There was no indication of removal until 36 weeks pregnant, which until then I had been told to stay put for the assessment, and it was then too late for me to make any changes.

They also used my childhood against me in the proceedings as well as the current concerns (DV, sexual abuse at the hands of then boyfriend) and all of the things they failed to protect me from were then being weaponised against me as though a vulnerable child is responsible for its own neglect and abuse.

I did manage to get out without their help but I lost my lovely baby to adoption.

They were quick to take my baby on the chance that he may be at risk of emotional harm (not by me, by the father I wanted to get away from) but they refused to take me to safety despite clear, evidenced ongoing abuse and neglect and me pleading with them to take me away.

Some MNers will recognise my story. I received alot of wonderful support on this board a few years ago. I didn't go into the grotty details of my childhood as I wasn't ready to address those things, but I'm in a much better place now and need closure.

There is much more I can add if anybody has any questions but this is a brief outline.

Years later, I moved away and broke the cycle. I have become a mum to a further two children who are in my care full time with no social services involvement. My local SS department went over my file and were appalled at the way I was failed time and time again. The social worker I was assigned here in london (after approaching them of my own accord when pregnant with my second - to prove myself capable) couldn't believe how badly I was let down and raised her concerns with her managers which is on file.

I've had trauma therapy and received a similar response from my therapist and anybody else I confide in about my history.

Everything I've mentioned is logged, from the police to hospital admissions, health records and I have a huge amount of paperwork so I can prove the failings, but would I get anywhere?

I don't want compensation, I just want them to acknowledge that they failed me.

If I have a case, how would I go about getting it to court?

OP posts:
Deepinmythoughts · 09/07/2020 23:09

I'll check back here in a couple of days, thank you In advance for any replies

OP posts:
slipperywhensparticus · 09/07/2020 23:16

My personal feelings are hell yes but I'm not a legal expert so I will bump you up and hope someone more experienced can help

AlphaDalpha · 09/07/2020 23:17

I have no ideal about the legal ins and outs but I'm so sorry that you had to go through all that.

First step maybe would be to request a copy of all of your files from SS?

I had a (very minor in comparison) issue with a Health Visitor and I was able to report it to (I think) the nurses council who reviewed her and found failure with her processes, she had to write a report on herself and submit to them to show she had improved.

Twizzleisadancer · 09/07/2020 23:20

it sounds like you have had an awful time ... possibly their determination to keep you at home overrode everything else. However as awful as things have been I think you also need to recognise that removing you from your mum may not have had the outcome you wanted. Ie, it sounds as though the abuse you experienced (from older men) were more contextual safeguarding issues (ie abuse from outside the family home) which are harder to solve through removing children from the home. That coupled with the fact that children in care tend to fare less well than those who remain at home (not saying that's a reason btw!) might explain why those decisions were made at the time. It might be worth contacting your old LA and asking for it to be looked into, but you may find that too traumatic?

Have you done a freedom of information request so you can at least review your records? as upsetting as everything is you need to put this behind you and focus on the lovely children you have now :)

good luck for the future.

Emeraldshamrock · 09/07/2020 23:20

An acknowledgement of the terrible mistreatment is the minimum they should give.
I'm sorry I've no legal advice though there may be a charity who can help you access the information.
I'm really so sorry you were let down, I hope life is better for you now. Flowers

Smallsteps88 · 09/07/2020 23:26

I’ve no idea OP but I truly truly hope so. I am so sorry for everything you have been put through. I hope you are healing. Thanks

AllTheWhoresOfMalta · 09/07/2020 23:30

I am no legal eagle so I don’t know OP, but I hope so am I think it’s worth your trying.

Babesinthewud · 09/07/2020 23:39

Your whole life has been filled with horrific experiences. Your post comes across as well written and articulate, so you’ve clearly in a much better place now.

I would get in touch with a local firm and see what they advise.

Good luck OP

Deepinmythoughts · 09/07/2020 23:43

I'm getting there, thank you Smile

Life is very different now. I have two lovely children, a lovely home, a job I enjoy, I've had therapy and I'm far removed from all of the things that happened to me.

I do want (and have tried) to put it behind me but it resurfaces from time to time and I think I would benefit from having closure. I'm still angry at how I was let down and shown to believe that I didn't matter and wasn't worth helping.

Thinking back to my early teens, I was so desperate for normality I truly believe I would have thrived if I'd been taken out of that environment. There were so many opportunities to protect me.

I understand SS often want to keep families together, but that wasn't the case with me during the two pivotal times they let me down. The first was a blatant failure to protect and the second a blatant failure to support.

Accessing my files via a freedom of information request will be a good place to start.

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Emeraldshamrock · 10/07/2020 00:02

You were undoubtedly let down as are many unfortunate DC still today.
Speak to citizens advice they may be able to help direct you.

roxfox · 10/07/2020 01:31

Hi op

So sorry for what you experienced. Absolutely you were let down and you should go to court. Sue them. You don't have to keep the money you can donate it to a charity. However I financial ruling against them would go some way to ensuring they review their provisions.

Also, an freedom of information act request will give you annoynimised data. A subject access request will give you everything about yourself.

To get all the data /files you must right to every organisation/agency/doctor/everyone and request all info relating to you within certain dates

All the very very best

k1233 · 10/07/2020 02:28

If you want to go the legal route, have a talk to a no win no pay lawyer - it might get costly otherwise.

To me it sounds like you were extremely let down by the services that should have protected you.

Ted27 · 10/07/2020 02:45

@Deepinmythoughts

What an awful story, you are remarkable person to have survived this and achieved success in life.
I'm an adoptive mum and without giving too much away I have been engaged in a battle with an LA about my son's brother, I believe he may have a case against the LA.

Have you heard of Lemn Sissay? He grew up in the care system, a very different story to yours but he was also spectactularly let down by social services. A few years ago he won a landmark case against the LA.

It took him years to get access to all his files and then he sued. It can be done but could take years of your life. If you already have your files I think it would be worth taking advice. You would probably need a specialist organisation though.

Good luck.

PareidoliaNephophile · 10/07/2020 03:20

Yes, Ted I immediately thought of Lemn. I am appalled you went through all that OP. Bloody well done for being able to turn your life around. Flowers

differentnameforthis · 10/07/2020 04:33

No advice op, but just that...

WELL DONE on breaking the cycle. It's the hardest option between that and following the status quo. It takes an awful amount of courage, determination and often times pain. I wish you well.

Flowers
Rookie93 · 10/07/2020 04:52

No advice, but didn't want to read and not respond in some way to the failures of others you've had to overcome. Your children are lucky to have you as their Mum Flowers

willitbetonight · 10/07/2020 06:03

I think if what you have written here is accurate you have a very good case. You poor thing. They absolutely have failed you. You deserve monetary compensation too. My mother suffered emotional neglect in a residential school in the 40/50s in Ireland. The Irish govt set up a scheme to financially compensate those who had been abused and failed by the state as it was so widespread. It helped my mum enormously to receive the large sum of money she was awarded. She never actually spent it but it went a long way to acknowledging what had happened to her was wrong. She also received an apology but the compensation somehow meant the apology was real and not just a fob off with words.

Mosaic123 · 11/07/2020 14:33

Your Mother was let down by SS too. No support for her parenting.

20mum · 11/07/2020 20:53

Sorry too. Suggest you might look at various things. Anna Runkle's free talks. The NAPAC site (it also has links to specialist solicitors. ) Havoca. Pandora's Aquarium . The Truth commission enquiry into historic child abuse (regardless if reported to police or not, partly in hope of identifying systemic failings therefore protecting others in future).

Your first DD may contact you in future, assuming she was happily adopted.

Possibly, if, big if, you choose the compensation route, and don't actually seek money for yoursèlf, just an acknowledgement ànd apology, and fiŕm proof things hàve improved, you will make a favourable impression on the court and facè less hostility from the guilty. It would be perfect if there is a method of asking just a token one pound for yourself, plus costs and your other requests, but asking the court at discretion to order the offènders to pay a reasonable sum equivalent to compensation, directly to relevant charity, (presumably N A P A C as it seems to be thè only one.)

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